At this point, I remain neutral on this issue.
I do not see how ARIN can take a position on BGP Hijacking, when ARIN a
few years ago in Draft Policy ARIN 2014-6 eliminated any end user rights
granted by the policy manual to manage their reverse DNS on address space
assigned to them by their upstream ISP. This Draft Policy struck 7.1
(IPv4) and 6.5.6 (IPv6) from the policy manual. This was another act of
ARIN to avoid the role of internet police by telling ISP's what they must
do as a condition of receiving resources from ARIN, in this case provide
reverse DNS to their customers.
I wonder if the forced registration in Whois upon request of the end user
for IPv6 space in 6.5.5.4 will be the next victim of the "avoid being the
internet police" attitude at ARIN. To me, allowing a customer to force
the registration in Whois of their IPv6 space, but not forcing the ISP to
delegate the reverse DNS for that same space seems wrong.
While most ISP's are reasonable to their customers and will assign the
reverse IPv4 and IPv6 zones to their customers who have been assigned
space upon request, there does exist many ISP's who will not, or insist on
more expensive commercial service in order to obtain the ability to manage
their reverse DNS zones. In some cases these major ISP's might be the
only ones available with reasonable bandwidth, eliminating the market
factors of "just find another ISP".
If ARIN is unwilling to govern the issue of ISP's who refuse to delegate
the reverse zones provided to the ISP by ARIN to its customers, how
can we ever expect ARIN to enforce BGP Hijacking which could originate
from one of the other 4 RIR's in addition to ARIN?
Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.
On Sun, 28 Apr 2019, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
In message
<F04ED1585899D842B482E7ADCA581B8472A6D6E7@newserver.arneill-py.local>,
Michel Py <[email protected]> wrote:
And as I have noted above, the same "governance" entity that paints the lines
on the road should also be the one enforcing those lines and those rules.
Anything else is just unworkable, as history has already amply proven.
If that is what you want, you need to give ARIN enforcement powers and the
resources to do so that are not currently there.
People toss around this word "enforcement" as if we needed a full battalion
of United Nations Blue Helments in order to just simply kick AUP violators
to the curb. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The remedy is as simple as the crime. Don't play by the rules? Then all
of the WHOIS records for what used to be "your" ASNs and IP address blocks
are revoked and likewise for your reverse DNS delegations. In short, you
violate your contract with ARIN and that contract gets revoked, according
to the terms of the contract.
This is just simply contractual enforcement of a sane (and contractually
binding) AUP.
The people who view this as somehow either radical or novel are still living
in the prior century, and apparently are such luddites that they haven't ever
even used a modern online service. e.g. Twitter, Facebook, etc., etc., etc.
and thus remain blissfully unaware of the fact that essentially -every- other
online service has, and has had, for many years now, an AUP of one kind or
another, and one which users violate at the possible cost of losing that
service.
This isn't rocket surgery.
Time for everyone to grow up a little and agree that bad behavior should
have consequences. A vote in favor of having no consequences for anything,
ever is what I would expect from a class of third graders, not a group
of supposedly mature and thoughtful engineers.
And no, the Internet community should NOT wait around with its collective
hands in its collective pockets, hoping and wishing for law enforcement to
come in and clean up the messes that we, the technologists, have created
for ourselves through our own short-sightedness and bad designs. It's our
mess, and we should clean it up ourselves, not wait for mommy to come in
and change our diapers for us.
Regards,
rfg
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