Andrew,

So far, I have seen lots of discussion of the issue but I have not seen a 
single concise coherent complete definition of the BGP hijacking problem that 
includes:

·         What technical mechanisms are used to create a BGP hijack

·         How BGP hijacking is initiated

·         Why BGP hijacking is possible

·         The frequency of BGP hijacking instances

·         How long BGP hijacking instances last

·         The locations of BGP hijacking instances

·         How information about BGP hijacking instances can be gathered

Without a really clear definition of the problem, it is hard to evaluate the 
effectiveness of the proposed process.

So far, it is not at all clear to me how the process described in proposal 266 
will have any effect on the problem, but that may be because I do not fully 
understand the problem.

Keith

From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Bagrin
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 10:05 AM
To: Marilson Mapa <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP 
Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

I'm curious why do people not want to let ARIN try to start getting involved to 
help resolve the issue of hijacking?

Are you doing hijacking and don't want interference?
Are you running a competitive service that you charge for?

Does anyone believe there is a valid reason to hijack and advertise IP space 
that you do not own? (when the owner of that space does not want you to 
advertise it)

Why would anyone be against ARIN having a process to help resolve these issues? 
 Sure we can question how effective it will be, but anything will be more 
effective than nothing, and by actually doing, failing and learning, ARIN will 
only improve and refine the process. We will all learn from this.

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