On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 2:31 PM Ronald F. Guilmette <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In message <CAN-Dau2QMY1sBZzC52VOpGAON= > [email protected]> > David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > > >The proponents of this proposal want you to think this proposal > >only affects hijackers. That is not the case, this proposal affects anyone > >who operates a router. It puts anyone who operates a router in jeopardy of > >losing their Internet resources, for possibly something as innocent as > >making a typo in their router config. > > I am quite completely sure that this is *not* the intent. > I'm quite sure that is not the intent also. I know for a fact that Jordi and Carlos are really trying to help this situation. However, in my opinion, the effect is "it puts anyone who operates a router in jeopardy of losing their Internet resources, for possibly something as innocent as making a typo in their router config." > I also believe that the proposal takes pains to try to treat separately, > and very differently, cases involving innocent mistakes and cases involving > very deliberate and willful actions. > I disagree, I don't see enough, for instance, what is the standard of evidence needed for a finding; "beyond a reasonable doubt", "preponderance of the evidence", or something else? > The latter can generally be distinguished from the former via the passage > of time. If an operator has been duly notified that he/she/it is > announcing > a route that he/she/it shouldn't be, and if there is no change after the > passage of a number of days, then and only then does there even begin to > be some basis for further investigation to determine if the announcement is > deliberate and not just a "fat fingers" error. > Maybe it can be distinguished, but how much time has to laps with you ignoring ARIN before ARIN takes away your resources? An hour, a day, a week, a month, 90 days? Furthermore, the proposal is much more a process than it is a policy. > Regards, > rfg > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:[email protected] Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
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