Well, it seems that leasing practices are not that popular among
community and tentatives to change the rules to make it easier or more
soft to those who focus on these practices will not be something that
may happen anytime soon.
So despite what some people say that "That´s a normal practice we cannot
go back and have to accept because is already done" is not exactly like
that.
We should actually endeavor to have good policies that make sure
resources go to those who *really* have justification even if that
involves a transfer via the market, but the important point is that the
the relationship remains directly between the organization and ARIN and
not with an intermediary in the middle.
Fernando
Em 21/09/2021 16:25, Isaiah Olson escreveu:
I am opposed to this proposal and would in fact like to see a policy
proposal that strengthens the requirement to provide actual network
services in order to receive additional address space. I agree that
the current policy is unclear and possibly causing confusion for ARIN
staff processing transfers when leasing is involved, and that updating
it to prevent abuse of resources without affecting operational
networks is a complex task. Despite the difficulty, I hope the
community can converge on a proposal to that end. Questions of fig
leaves and fraudulent intent are best left to the courts to interpret,
but there cannot be accountability for fraud without clear policy.
In relation to this particular proposal, I would ask the community to
consider the consequences of implementation. Some have suggested that
the current policy can be evaded with simple "fig leaves" to present
the illusion of the provision of network services. I am not so sure.
Under the current policy, I would certainly not be comfortable
requesting an additional /23 or /22 from the waiting list for "VPN
Services" and proceeding to lease that space out to be announced
elsewhere while maintaining a VPN link for appearances. If this policy
were to be adopted, there would be absolutely nothing fraudulent about
requesting a /22 for the purposes of leasing it to be announced on
completely unrelated networks. Given the dozens of emails that I have
received in the last several months offering to buy or lease my
current IPv4 block, I am confident that I could immediately find
lessees and be ready to request additional space from ARIN as soon as
the six month waiting period has expired. Further, as it has been
recently pointed out, this economies of scale only get better as you
obtain more and more space, as my fees would cap out quickly at
$2000/year in around two years which is easily subsidized with the
leasing revenue from 4,096+ addresses. I am uncomfortable with the
idea that anyone with the time to set up a corporation whose business
model is "holding IPv4 resources and leasing them out" could
effectively loot the waiting list for thousands of addresses in a
couple short years. Given the current price explosion in the IPv4
transfer market, I feel that this risk posed by this proposal to the
integrity of the waiting list is very tangible. Additionally, basic
economics of supply and demand show that opening up the transfer
market for speculation and investment without requiring even the
appearance of an operational network has the potential to cause prices
to skyrocket to even more absurd levels.
Lastly, I also agree with others that the actual proposed policy
language is flawed, "users of the network" is incredibly vague and
it's unclear whether "network" refers to the Internet shared resource
as a whole (global DFZ) or any network.
Isaiah Olson
Olson Tech, LLC
Policy statement:
Replace
“2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local Internet Registry (LIR)
is an IR that primarily assigns address space to the users of the
network services that it provides. LIRs are generally Internet
Service Providers (ISPs), whose customers are primarily end users and
possibly other ISPs.”
with
“2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local Internet Registry (LIR)
is an IR that primarily assigns address space to users of the
network. LIRs are generally Internet Service Providers (ISPs), whose
customers are primarily end users and possibly other ISPs.”
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