I believe the implementation of this policy would be beneficial and support the notion. Cheken
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:25 PM Isaiah Olson <[email protected]> wrote: > I am opposed to this proposal and would in fact like to see a policy > proposal that strengthens the requirement to provide actual network > services in order to receive additional address space. I agree that the > current policy is unclear and possibly causing confusion for ARIN staff > processing transfers when leasing is involved, and that updating it to > prevent abuse of resources without affecting operational networks is a > complex task. Despite the difficulty, I hope the community can converge > on a proposal to that end. Questions of fig leaves and fraudulent intent > are best left to the courts to interpret, but there cannot be > accountability for fraud without clear policy. > > In relation to this particular proposal, I would ask the community to > consider the consequences of implementation. Some have suggested that > the current policy can be evaded with simple "fig leaves" to present the > illusion of the provision of network services. I am not so sure. Under > the current policy, I would certainly not be comfortable requesting an > additional /23 or /22 from the waiting list for "VPN Services" and > proceeding to lease that space out to be announced elsewhere while > maintaining a VPN link for appearances. If this policy were to be > adopted, there would be absolutely nothing fraudulent about requesting a > /22 for the purposes of leasing it to be announced on completely > unrelated networks. Given the dozens of emails that I have received in > the last several months offering to buy or lease my current IPv4 block, > I am confident that I could immediately find lessees and be ready to > request additional space from ARIN as soon as the six month waiting > period has expired. Further, as it has been recently pointed out, this > economies of scale only get better as you obtain more and more space, as > my fees would cap out quickly at $2000/year in around two years which is > easily subsidized with the leasing revenue from 4,096+ addresses. I am > uncomfortable with the idea that anyone with the time to set up a > corporation whose business model is "holding IPv4 resources and leasing > them out" could effectively loot the waiting list for thousands of > addresses in a couple short years. Given the current price explosion in > the IPv4 transfer market, I feel that this risk posed by this proposal > to the integrity of the waiting list is very tangible. Additionally, > basic economics of supply and demand show that opening up the transfer > market for speculation and investment without requiring even the > appearance of an operational network has the potential to cause prices > to skyrocket to even more absurd levels. > > Lastly, I also agree with others that the actual proposed policy > language is flawed, "users of the network" is incredibly vague and it's > unclear whether "network" refers to the Internet shared resource as a > whole (global DFZ) or any network. > > Isaiah Olson > Olson Tech, LLC > > > Policy statement: > > > > > > > > Replace > > > > > > > > “2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is > an IR that primarily assigns address space to the users of the network > services that it provides. LIRs are generally Internet Service Providers > (ISPs), whose customers are primarily end users and possibly other ISPs.” > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > “2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is > an IR that primarily assigns address space to users of the network. LIRs > are generally Internet Service Providers (ISPs), whose customers are > primarily end users and possibly other ISPs.” > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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