Hi Bill,

You seem to acknowledge there are lessees out there who have a need for 
addresses.
However, you object to a "high-price mini-ARIN".
Every LIR is a mini-ARIN by nature, isn't it?
So what you are really objecting to is the high-price, and I believe the nub of 
it is the rent money.

The market abhors a vacuum. So this will happen if there is a need.
Who is there to address that need but large networks and lucky incumbent 
holders?
So the rent money will go to them.

In your final statement, you want policy to move against leasing instead of 
towards it, but you're also arguing that it's impossible to prevent leasing in 
policy in your first paragraph.

Regards,
Mike


Hi Chris,

As I noted in a recent thread, there's no language you can write which will 
prevent that from happening. The service provider can just bump it one step 
further back. "Oh, we can't provide a VPN? Okay, we don't.
We do BGP with the customer's virtual server and what they do with it is not 
for us to say. Oh, we can't provide the virtual server or have to police the 
customer's use?Tell that to Amazon before you hassle us.
Good luck."

However, just because we can't prevent something doesn't mean we have to 
legitimize it and make it easy for the folks who want to be high-price 
mini-ARINs. And if the status quo has become unstable due to the price of IP 
addresses, I'd rather see the policy moved away from leasing addresses for use 
with BGP rather than moved toward it.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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