> On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Noah <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 14:05 Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML, <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> No signatory to any ARIN RSA is permitted by policy to engage in a recurring 
> charge for addresses or a differentiated service charge based on the number 
> if addresses issued to a customer. Addresses must be provided strictly as 
> part of a contract for connectivity services and the number of addresses 
> provided shall not, in any way, affect the cost of those connectivity 
> services.
> 
> The goal of an LIR has always been to suballocate to end users they provided 
> connectivity services. I know LIR who do this today and only charge for 
> services not the /24 downstream assignments.

Then those LIRs wouldn’t be affected.

> The transfer policies then introduced address purchasing and some LIR went 
> out of their way to pay for addresses based on need.
> 
> Is it safe to assume that the whole IPv4 market seems to have been created by 
> not the LIR but folks who are not LIR but figured they would profit from 
> brokering the limited addresses.

I don’t buy that this is actually the case.

> I am curious? Why an LIR whose ARIN membership fees is peanuts could go about 
> leasing addresses instead of profiting from only the services they provide 
> their customers.

You’d have to ask them. I have provided clear examples of the practice by 
multiple LIRs.

Owen

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