On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 10:38 AM Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand there are ways to effectively circumvent ARIN policy through > legal relationships.
Hi Mike, You misunderstand me. The legal relationship I described does not circumvent ARIN policy. Rather the opposite - it brings your desired use into compliance, both in letter and spirit. In the partnership example, the actual user of the addresses must demonstrate their qualification to ARIN before they can receive them. No different than if they'd purchased them. As the address purchasing part of the partnership, you don't contribute to qualification for the addresses at all. And indeed, were you to reclaim and reassign the addresses without forming a new partnership and going through ARIN again, the addresses would no longer count as utilized under ARIN policy. > But it's just simpler to create a thin VPN or to operate out of the RIPE RIR. There's always something simpler that skirts the rules. At least until you get caught. RIPE's policy is RIPE's lookout. If you have what you want with RIPE, why are you pestering ARIN? While you can get away with a thin VPN here and there I think you'd be risking ARIN finding your behavior pretextual, in bad-faith and therefore fraudulent if you based a business on it. For those who don't follow the reference - a thin VPN means that the lessor provides the lessee with a VPN tunnel over which they're permitted to advertise BGP. If the lessor advertises BGP via the tunnel, that advertisement is propagated to the Internet and the lessee is billed for the data usage in addition to the address lease. The customer then goes and gets their *real* IP connectivity elsewhere and ignores the VPN. It's not just thin, it's anorexic. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin [email protected] https://bill.herrin.us/ _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
