My apologies, John and all. I agree that AFRINIC matters should remain in Africa unless it relates to the ARIN region.
Omo. On Fri, 10 Jun 2022, 19:55 John Curran, <[email protected]> wrote: > Fernando - > > Stephen is correct – i.e., those that wish to entertain significant > discussions of matters related to AFRINIC governance have more appropriate > mailing lists in that community available for such a purpose. > > The ARIN-ppml mailing list is to provide a forum for > number policy development activities in the ARIN region. > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > > On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Fernando Frediani <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hello Stephen > > Although I am not much involved in this discussion, although I commented I > have to say that I often see this type of questioning in the list and I > personally don't see the list exclusively to discuss policies, but anything > that may have to do with them and with this Policy Development Discussion > ecosystem we are all involved. > > People participating here take in consideration a lot of details to form > their opinion and discuss about the proposed policies and anything that may > have to do with an attack against a RIR, a tentative of manipulation of the > process being the PDP or election to the Board or any RIR that may also > happen in this one should be of the concern of everybody involved, so they > can have more information to form their opinion regarding the effects of > each proposal that is presented here and its possible effects. > > Finally and not less important, although we have Regional RIRs the effects > of trouble happening in other RIRs have the potential to affect how things > work for all others and by consequence the whole of Internet, so another > reason is good that people participating in the this list get this related > information to take in account when discussing any proposed policies and > also if that kind of trouble could also happen here. > > Best regards > Fernando > On 10/06/2022 15:08, Middleton, Stephen R via ARIN-PPML wrote: > > Greetings, > > > Not meaning to be a wet blanket but which ARIN policy is this discussion > in relation to? I seem to recall that the PPML List is to "provide a > forum to raise and discuss policy-related ideas and issues surrounding > existing and proposed ARIN policies." > > Perhaps the community would be better served if the current > conversation to a forum more focused on the topic being discussed? > > > Best Regards, > > > > [image: Verizon] <http://www.verizon.com/> > > > Stephen R. Middleton, Sr. > Princ Engr-Ntwk Engring > Network Engineering and Ops > > 22001 Loudoun County Parkway; F1-2-277 > Ashburn, VA 20147 > > Office 703.694.6965 > [email protected] > > > > [image: Facebook] <http://www.facebook.com/verizon> [image: Twitter] > <http://twitter.com/verizon> [image: LinkedIn] > <http://www.linkedin.com/company/verizon> > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 12:14 PM Omo Oaiya <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 at 16:29, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2022, at 05:22 , Noah <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, 00:19 Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yes, there’s no secret that I am a consultant to Cloud Innovation and >>>> Larus, Ltd. >>> >>> >>> True story. >>> >>> However, I have no involvement or affiliation with NRS and >>>> no desire to have same. >>> >>> >>> Internet archives never forget. >>> >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/013810.html >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.afrinic.net_pipermail_rpd_2021_013810.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=PNlZCOTcrBXvix6v31kntg680rC2tshHDXM0RcJv5bE&m=9sw9nyzLNUg6DZYGzlnK8WkqhJdEJxryDRavaNpfwNMSxaa79ZFZWW8vRTN-vlYl&s=5PsHZ_THYKyYMRd4pt-OSXUfkvjCuV2Pd1MZ9CSLcuI&e=> >>> >>> On that thread, your response was in full defence of NRS as you really >>> went on to explaib what they are all about as though you had insider >>> knowledge of the organization. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Noah >>> >>> >>> Nope… It was a statement against certain misinformation being >>> promulgated by you at the time. >>> >>> It was based on the publicly available record at the time and not any >>> internal knowledge or affiliation with NRS. >>> >>> I don’t agree with lots of things Larus is doing/has done, but I’m >>> supporting them in their law suits because I believe the board and staff >>> are just plain wrong in their effort to revoke their membership based on a >>> plain text reading of the provisions cited by the board and staff in their >>> various affidavits and correspondence. >>> >>> Facts are facts. When I see misinformation and/or disinformation, I will >>> tend to speak out against it, even when I don’t agree with or support the >>> party being attacked. >>> >> >> These would have to be alternative facts from your track record on the >> AFRINIC lists :-) >> >> Omo >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.arin.net_mailman_listinfo_arin-2Dppml&d=DwICAg&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=PNlZCOTcrBXvix6v31kntg680rC2tshHDXM0RcJv5bE&m=9sw9nyzLNUg6DZYGzlnK8WkqhJdEJxryDRavaNpfwNMSxaa79ZFZWW8vRTN-vlYl&s=PhELEmVQxYaj0w5Y14ZaHW2wj2e6nZRqcQn__FbBgtA&e= >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription > at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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