> On 10 Jun 2022, at 8:30 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 5:11 PM Fernando Frediani <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Internet Governance topic that concerns
>> not only members but Community in general.
> 
> Hi Fernando,
> 
> To be clear, I think John -wants- participation by as many folks as
> are willing. I think he just temporarily forgot that the community and
> the membership are not the same thing and it is the -community- (not
> merely the members) which provides ARIN its bottom-up foundation of
> legitimacy. You can't structurally discourage community participation
> and then claim to be a bottom-up function of that community. Well, I
> mean you can claim anything but it would no longer be true.

Bill - 

ARIN is an extremely open organization, and yes, our processes have been setup 
to welcome input from absolutely all parties who adhere to some modest rules of 
decorum. 

For example, ARIN’s policy development process (and the associated arin-ppml 
mailing list) allow input from anyone, regardless of whether they are a member, 
have resources, are located in region or out of region, etc.   I’ve often said 
that if there’s dogs, alien life forms or artificial intelligent life forms, 
then they’re welcome to participate.   Note that this openness is quite 
intentional, as there are affected parties who don’t necessary have number 
resources (e.g. network researchers, governments/LEA, etc.) who are affected by 
the policies that the “ARIN Community” establishes, and thus it is only 
appropriate that they are part of that community.  

Similarly, we have consultations on suggestions submitted by the community and 
on significant operational changes raised by ARIN staff.   These likewise are 
open to all, with an accompanying mailing list, and do not require membership 
or resources in the ARIN registry, etc.  

However, this is openness still has decorum - some people don’t participate in 
arin-ppml and some don’t participate in arin-discuss, and that is their choice. 
 We direct people to the appropriate process and mailing list, and lightly 
administer the AUP so that people see the type of discussions that they wish.   
This doesn’t reduce ARIN’s “openness”, but simply shows respect for what people 
expect see in their inbox based on their subscriptions. 

Now we have a third significant mailing list, and that is less open - it’s the 
general-members list, and it’s so that ARIN members can have deliberations on 
matters for which they jointly share responsibility such as ARIN’s elections, 
strategic direction, programs and fees.   It is true that this is a departure 
from our previously total open stance, but it’s one with a fairly low threshold 
and provides equity for those who actually are ARIN members. 

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

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