Hi Owen,

Not any longer, we did a consultation on removing the attestation some months 
ago and stopped requiring it as a result. The only place it was left was in 
this one policy for 8.3 transfers. It was Consultation 2021.04 Retiring the 
Officer Attestation 
Requirement<https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/consultations/2021/2021-4/>

Thanks
John S.

From: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 at 3:55 PM
To: John Sweeting <jsweet...@arin.net>
Cc: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation 
Requirement for 8.5.5

John,

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the attestation is required of ALL 
recipients, not only specified transfer recipients.

This would include recipients receiving v4 or v6 resources from an ARIN 
application as well as those receiving them through specified transfers. I 
don’t recall whether this applies to merger/acquisition transfers or not, so 
clarification there would also probably be useful.

I realize that the DP in question proposes removing the requirement only from 
certain specified transfers.

I’m still opposed to this proposal for the reasons stated and I thank you for 
this clarification to the community.

Owen



On Jun 27, 2022, at 12:03, John Sweeting 
<jsweet...@arin.net<mailto:jsweet...@arin.net>> wrote:

Hello PPML,

ARIN would like to provide a clarification on both the Officer Attestation 
which is what is highlighted in DP ARIN-2022-3 and the Officer Acknowledgement 
which is not included in that Draft Policy.

Officer Attestation, as referenced in ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) 
8.5.5 Block Size is specifically asking for an officer of the organization to 
attest to the documented justification that states at least 50% of the 
requested block size will be used within the next 24 months. There is no 
notarization required and it serves to state and confirm that yes, that is our 
plan for the next 24 months and the information and documentation provided is 
accurate. This is only asked for in conjunction with a specified transfer 
recipient.

On the other hand, Officer Acknowledgement, which is not contained in the NRPM, 
is an operational requirement for Source Organizations (Current Registrant) 
found at:

https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/

This requirement states that “The source organization must provide a signed and 
notarized Officer Acknowledgement 
Letter<https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/office_acknowledgement.pdf>.
 The purposes of this requirement are:

-to state that there are no known disputes from another party to claim rights 
to these Internet number resources
-to ensure that a duly authorized officer has the authority to legally bind the 
source registrant
-to document the authorization to transfer said resources
-to provide indemnification to ARIN
-to verify that the data in the transfer request ticket is accurate
-to agree to all terms and release the rights to the Internet number resources 
contained in the specified transfer ticket.

As you can see there is really no comparison to the two separate and distinct 
documents that serve two very different purposes.

If there is further information required please reply and we will get that out 
to the list.

Thanks,
John S.


From: Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com<mailto:absc...@gmail.com>>
Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 at 11:33 AM
To: John Sweeting <jsweet...@arin.net<mailto:jsweet...@arin.net>>
Cc: Tom Fantacone <t...@iptrading.com<mailto:t...@iptrading.com>>, ARIN PPML 
<arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>>
Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation 
Requirement for 8.5.5

Dear ARIN-PPML,

Please find my comments below, inline...
Thanks.

Le lundi 27 juin 2022, John Sweeting 
<jsweet...@arin.net<mailto:jsweet...@arin.net>> a écrit :
Hi PPML,

Please be patient on this one. There is a lot of incorrect information 
reference these two forms


Hi John,
Thanks for confirming this, brother :'-(



and we will be sending out a clarification to this list later this morning with 
exact details of each form.


Great!
...i look forward to obtaining authoritative insights :-)

Shalom,
--sb.



Thanks,
John S.

From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net>> 
on behalf of Tom Fantacone <t...@iptrading.com<mailto:t...@iptrading.com>>
Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:57 AM
To: Sylvain Baya <absc...@gmail.com<mailto:absc...@gmail.com>>
Cc: ARIN PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2022-3: Remove Officer Attestation 
Requirement for 8.5.5

I don't believe either form (Acknowledgement or Attestation) are currently 
optional.  Only the Acknowledgement form needs to be notarized, however.



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