Dear ARIN-PPML, Le lundi 27 juin 2022, Tom Fantacone <[email protected]> a écrit :
> I don't believe either form (Acknowledgement or Attestation) are currently > optional. Only the Acknowledgement form needs to be notarized, however. > > > Tom, :'-( ...i've understood, after John's clarifications, that you were mostly right. Thanks for your email, brother :-) Shalom, --sb. > > ---- On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:58:21 -0400 *Sylvain Baya <[email protected] > <[email protected]>>* wrote --- > > Dear ARIN-PPML, > > Please find my comments below, inline... > > Thanks. > > Le samedi 25 juin 2022, Tom Fantacone <[email protected]> a écrit : > > Owen, > > This is actually the link for the sample Officer Attestation: > > > > Hi Tom, > Thanks for adding more clarifications, brother :-) > > > > https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/ > OfficerAttestation_watermark.pdf > > The link you provided was for the "Officer Acknowledgement". > > > > > Right, thanks! > > > > The Officer Acknowledgement is a notarized form > > > > Here, you seem to have kickly generalised an > optional act :-/ > > It's not what the documented [1] procedure states: > > <quote1> > "*No notarization is necessary*. Note that the form > will be provided to you and is not available via our > website." > </quote1> > __ > [1]: https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/ > attestation/#:~:text=No%20notarization%20is%20necessary,not%20available% > 20via%20our%20website. > > > > > signed by the Seller of the resources verifying, among other things, that > the signer is authorized on behalf of the source entity to make the > resource transfer. > > > > ...it would be really useful to render this attestation > mandatory, imho; as it appears to be optional [1]. > > > > That helps to avoid a situation where an unauthorized employee with ARIN > online access could make a resource transfer without permission. > > > > Thanks for mentioning this valuable detail. > > FWIW, the tool is available; but it's still [2] optional :'-( > > <paste2> > "Officer Acknowledgment > > The Officer Acknowledgment form , *when signed* > *and notarized*, *is required to be provided* to > ARIN *by a source organization* (current registrant) > for a Transfer to Specified Recipients in the ARIN > Region (8.3) or an Inter-RIR Transfer (8.4). An > officer of the source organization needs to sign this > form, have it notarized, and provide it to ARIN." > </paste2> > __ > [2]: https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/#:~:text=Officer% > 20Acknowledgment,notarized%2C%20and%20provide%20it%20to%20ARIN. > > > Would you like it to become mandatory? > > > > > > The Officer Attestation is a simpler form signed by the Buyer attesting to > the accuracy of the justification data and doesn't require notarization. > > > > > Tom, could you, please, explain why? > > ...imho! the new resource holder *must* be an org > which is willing to demonstrate its *need* of INRs. > > > > > > That's the one the draft policy seeks to eliminate. > > > > > This is a new information, at least for me, and i > thank you for this useful clarification, brother. > > ...i see it, at least, become optionally validated. > As you explained; the interest in validating the > Officer Acknowledgement document, is to add > more confidence to the process, for the new > resource holder. > Why not also validate Officer Acknowledgement > documents? > If the new resource holder's right representative > could sign a notarized document, then the new > destination of those INRs, being transfered, might > be more safe, and the numbering community > would celebrate that happy end...imho :-/ > > Rather than supporting this attempt to prevent the > use of Officer Attestation documents, i recommend > that its validation becomes the norm & its non > validation an exception. This would add more > protection against INRs reservation, imho. > > Thanks to let me know if i misunderstood something... > > This is where, i have to call John again...or anyone, > with clue, from ARIN's Staff...for help :-) > > Shalom, > --sb. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > Tom Fantacone > > > > ---- On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 00:41:46 -0400 *Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML > <[email protected] <[email protected]>>* wrote --- > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > -- Best Regards ! __ baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure> Subscribe to Mailing List: <https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/> __ #LASAINTEBIBLE|#Romains15:33«Que LE #DIEU de #Paix soit avec vous tous! #Amen!» #MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement «Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)
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