On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 08:02 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Martin, > > > > No, is not a global policy, they are only meant for IANA-RIR matters. > > > > We just mention what is the actual situation in other RIRs, also because > we have submitted similar policies, but as we all know, it may happen in > one region and not in others. > A globally coordinated policy is one intended to be adopted similarly across the 5 RIR’s. A global policy is intended for application to the 5 RIRs by the IANA. Is it either? It certainly does sound like it is the former. > > Regards, > > Jordi > > @jordipalet > > > > > > > > El 12/9/22, 13:55, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Martin Hannigan" < > [email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió: > > > > > > Very confusing. If this is to proceed it needs to be substantially boiled > down to what it may be intended to mean. > > > > However, is the author saying this is to be a globally coordinated policy? > > > > “ In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized either and > since it is not explicit in their policy manuals either, this proposal will > be presented as well.” > > > > This should be clearer. There are subtle implications like expecting > closely aligned text across regions. > > > > Before expending tons of energy on a coordinated policy, early feedback is > a good predictor of outcome and shouldn't be taken lightly. > > > > Thanks — > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:29 ARIN <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 18 August 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-308: > Leasing Not Intended" as a Draft Policy. > > > > Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9 is below and can be found at: > > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_9/ > > > > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will > evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this draft policy with > ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the > Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are: > > > > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration > > * Technically Sound > > * Supported by the Community > > > > The PDP can be found at: > > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ > > > > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ > > > > Regards, > > > > Sean Hopkins > > Senior Policy Analyst > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > > > > > > Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended > > > > Problem Statement: > > > > “IPv6 Policy (section 6.4.1.) explicitly mention that address space is not > a property. This is also stated in the RSA (section 7.) for all the > Internet Number Resources. > > > > However, with the spirit of the IPv4 allocation policies being the same, > there is not an equivalent text for IPv4, neither for ASNs. > > > > Further to that, policies for IPv4 and IPv6 allocations, clearly state > that allocations are based on justified need and not solely on a predicted > customer base. Similar text can be found in the section related to > Transfers (8.1). > > > > Consequently, resources not only aren’t a property, but also, aren’t > allocated for leasing purposes, only for justified need of the resource > holder and its directly connected customers. > > > > Therefore, and so that there are no doubts about it, it should be made > explicit in the NRPM that the Internet Resources should not be leased “per > se”, but only as part of a direct connectivity service. At the same time, > section 6.4.1. should be moved to the top of the NRPM (possibly to section > 1. “Principles and Goals of the American Registry for Internet Numbers > (ARIN)”.” > > > > Policy statement: > > > > Actual Text (to be replaced by New Text): > > > > 6.4.1. Address Space Not to be Considered Property > > > > It is contrary to the goals of this document and is not in the interests > of the Internet community as a whole for address space to be considered > freehold property. > > > > The policies in this document are based upon the understanding that > globally-unique IPv6 unicast address space is allocated/assigned for use > rather than owned. > > > > New Text > > > > 1.5. Internet Number Resources Not to be Considered Property > > > > It is contrary to the goals of this document and is not in the interests > of the Internet community as a whole for address space to be considered > freehold property. > > > > The policies in this document are based upon the understanding that > Internet Number Resources are allocated/assigned for use rather than owned. > > > > ARIN allocate and assign Internet resources in a delegation scheme, with > an annual validity, renewable as long as the requirements specified by the > policies in force at the time of renewal are met, and especially the > justification of the need. > > > > Therefore, the resources can’t be considered property. > > > > The justification of the need, generically in the case of addresses, > implies their need to directly connect customers. Therefore, the leasing of > addresses is not considered acceptable, nor does it justify the need, if > they are not part of a set of services based, at least, on direct > connectivity. > > > > Even in cases of networks not connected to the Internet, the leasing of > addresses is not admissible, since said sites can request direct > assignments from ARIN and even in the case of IPv4, use private addresses > or arrange transfers. > > > > Timetable for implementation: Immediate > > > > Situation in other Regions: > > > > In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized either and since > it is not explicit in their policy manuals either, this proposal will be > presented as well. > > > > Nothing is currently mentioned in RIPE about this and it is not acceptable > as a justification of the need. In AFRINIC, APNIC and LACNIC, the staff has > confirmed that address leasing is not considered as valid for the > justification. > > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are > receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy > Mailing List ([email protected]). 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