Sorry to harp on this, but procedurally, for your reference below.
https://www.arin.net/vault/announcements/2009/20090622.html
https://www.arin.net/vault/about_us/ac/ac2011_0128.html
You can search ["globally coordinated policy" ARIN ] in your favorite
search tool and find many references over the years regarding
"globally coordinated" policy, policy which may fit for all RIR's but
isn't a suitable action the IANA can apply to RIR's.
You said this:
"In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized either and
since it is not explicit in their policy manuals either, this proposal
will be presented as well."
Which still isn't clear on what your intention is. If you intend to
submit this same policy to all five RIR regions its all good.
Thanks,
-M<
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:10 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML
<[email protected]> wrote:
I don’t think there is such thing (formally speaking), and is not.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 12/9/22, 14:24, "Martin Hannigan" <[email protected]> escribió:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 08:02 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Martin,
No, is not a global policy, they are only meant for IANA-RIR
matters.
We just mention what is the actual situation in other RIRs,
also because we have submitted similar policies, but as we all
know, it may happen in one region and not in others.
A globally coordinated policy is one intended to be adopted
similarly across the 5 RIR’s. A global policy is intended for
application to the 5 RIRs by the IANA.
Is it either? It certainly does sound like it is the former.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 12/9/22, 13:55, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Martin Hannigan"
<[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]>
escribió:
Very confusing. If this is to proceed it needs to be
substantially boiled down to what it may be intended to mean.
However, is the author saying this is to be a globally
coordinated policy?
“ In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized
either and since it is not explicit in their policy manuals
either, this proposal will be presented as well.”
This should be clearer. There are subtle implications like
expecting closely aligned text across regions.
Before expending tons of energy on a coordinated policy, early
feedback is a good predictor of outcome and shouldn't be taken
lightly.
Thanks —
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:29 ARIN <[email protected]> wrote:
On 18 August 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
"ARIN-prop-308: Leasing Not Intended" as a Draft Policy.
Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9 is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_9/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML.
The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the
conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of
Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy
Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community
The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found
at: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
Regards,
Sean Hopkins
Senior Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended
Problem Statement:
“IPv6 Policy (section 6.4.1.) explicitly mention that
address space is not a property. This is also stated in
the RSA (section 7.) for all the Internet Number Resources.
However, with the spirit of the IPv4 allocation policies
being the same, there is not an equivalent text for IPv4,
neither for ASNs.
Further to that, policies for IPv4 and IPv6 allocations,
clearly state that allocations are based on justified need
and not solely on a predicted customer base. Similar text
can be found in the section related to Transfers (8.1).
Consequently, resources not only aren’t a property, but
also, aren’t allocated for leasing purposes, only for
justified need of the resource holder and its directly
connected customers.
Therefore, and so that there are no doubts about it, it
should be made explicit in the NRPM that the Internet
Resources should not be leased “per se”, but only as part
of a direct connectivity service. At the same time,
section 6.4.1. should be moved to the top of the NRPM
(possibly to section 1. “Principles and Goals of the
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)”.”
Policy statement:
Actual Text (to be replaced by New Text):
6.4.1. Address Space Not to be Considered Property
It is contrary to the goals of this document and is not in
the interests of the Internet community as a whole for
address space to be considered freehold property.
The policies in this document are based upon the
understanding that globally-unique IPv6 unicast address
space is allocated/assigned for use rather than owned.
New Text
1.5. Internet Number Resources Not to be Considered Property
It is contrary to the goals of this document and is not in
the interests of the Internet community as a whole for
address space to be considered freehold property.
The policies in this document are based upon the
understanding that Internet Number Resources are
allocated/assigned for use rather than owned.
ARIN allocate and assign Internet resources in a
delegation scheme, with an annual validity, renewable as
long as the requirements specified by the policies in
force at the time of renewal are met, and especially the
justification of the need.
Therefore, the resources can’t be considered property.
The justification of the need, generically in the case of
addresses, implies their need to directly connect
customers. Therefore, the leasing of addresses is not
considered acceptable, nor does it justify the need, if
they are not part of a set of services based, at least, on
direct connectivity.
Even in cases of networks not connected to the Internet,
the leasing of addresses is not admissible, since said
sites can request direct assignments from ARIN and even in
the case of IPv4, use private addresses or arrange transfers.
Timetable for implementation: Immediate
Situation in other Regions:
In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized
either and since it is not explicit in their policy
manuals either, this proposal will be presented as well.
Nothing is currently mentioned in RIPE about this and it
is not acceptable as a justification of the need. In
AFRINIC, APNIC and LACNIC, the staff has confirmed that
address leasing is not considered as valid for the
justification.
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