I don’t think there is such thing (formally speaking), and is not.

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 12/9/22, 14:24, "Martin Hannigan" <[email protected]> escribió:

 

 

 

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 08:02 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Martin,

 

No, is not a global policy, they are only meant for IANA-RIR matters.

 

We just mention what is the actual situation in other RIRs, also because we 
have submitted similar policies, but as we all know, it may happen in one 
region and not in others.

 

A globally coordinated policy is one intended to be adopted similarly across 
the 5 RIR’s. A global policy is intended for application to the 5 RIRs by the 
IANA. 

 

Is it either? It certainly does sound like it is the former. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 12/9/22, 13:55, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Martin Hannigan" 
<[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió:

 

 

Very confusing. If this is to proceed it needs to be substantially  boiled down 
to what it may be intended to mean.   

 

However, is the author saying this is to be a globally coordinated policy?

 

“ In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized either and since it 
is not explicit in their policy manuals either, this proposal will be presented 
as well.”

 

This should be clearer. There are subtle implications like expecting  closely 
aligned text across regions. 

 

Before expending tons of energy on a coordinated policy, early feedback is a 
good predictor of outcome and shouldn't be taken lightly. 

 

Thanks —

 

 

 

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:29 ARIN <[email protected]> wrote:

On 18 August 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-308: 
Leasing Not Intended" as a Draft Policy.

 

Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9 is below and can be found at:

 

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_9/

 

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate 
the discussion to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's 
Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy 
Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:

 

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration

* Technically Sound

* Supported by the Community

 

The PDP can be found at:

 

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/

 

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: 
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/

 

Regards,

 

Sean Hopkins

Senior Policy Analyst

American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

 

 

Draft Policy ARIN-2022-9: Leasing Not Intended

 

Problem Statement:

 

“IPv6 Policy (section 6.4.1.) explicitly mention that address space is not a 
property. This is also stated in the RSA (section 7.) for all the Internet 
Number Resources.

 

However, with the spirit of the IPv4 allocation policies being the same, there 
is not an equivalent text for IPv4, neither for ASNs.

 

Further to that, policies for IPv4 and IPv6 allocations, clearly state that 
allocations are based on justified need and not solely on a predicted customer 
base. Similar text can be found in the section related to Transfers (8.1).

 

Consequently, resources not only aren’t a property, but also, aren’t allocated 
for leasing purposes, only for justified need of the resource holder and its 
directly connected customers.

 

Therefore, and so that there are no doubts about it, it should be made explicit 
in the NRPM that the Internet Resources should not be leased “per se”, but only 
as part of a direct connectivity service. At the same time, section 6.4.1. 
should be moved to the top of the NRPM (possibly to section 1. “Principles and 
Goals of the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)”.”

 

Policy statement:

 

Actual Text (to be replaced by New Text):

 

6.4.1. Address Space Not to be Considered Property

 

It is contrary to the goals of this document and is not in the interests of the 
Internet community as a whole for address space to be considered freehold 
property.

 

The policies in this document are based upon the understanding that 
globally-unique IPv6 unicast address space is allocated/assigned for use rather 
than owned.

 

New Text

 

1.5. Internet Number Resources Not to be Considered Property

 

It is contrary to the goals of this document and is not in the interests of the 
Internet community as a whole for address space to be considered freehold 
property.

 

The policies in this document are based upon the understanding that Internet 
Number Resources are allocated/assigned for use rather than owned.

 

ARIN allocate and assign Internet resources in a delegation scheme, with an 
annual validity, renewable as long as the requirements specified by the 
policies in force at the time of renewal are met, and especially the 
justification of the need.

 

Therefore, the resources can’t be considered property.

 

The justification of the need, generically in the case of addresses, implies 
their need to directly connect customers. Therefore, the leasing of addresses 
is not considered acceptable, nor does it justify the need, if they are not 
part of a set of services based, at least, on direct connectivity.

 

Even in cases of networks not connected to the Internet, the leasing of 
addresses is not admissible, since said sites can request direct assignments 
from ARIN and even in the case of IPv4, use private addresses or arrange 
transfers.

 

Timetable for implementation: Immediate 

 

Situation in other Regions:

 

In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized either and since it 
is not explicit in their policy manuals either, this proposal will be presented 
as well.

 

Nothing is currently mentioned in RIPE about this and it is not acceptable as a 
justification of the need. In AFRINIC, APNIC and LACNIC, the staff has 
confirmed that address leasing is not considered as valid for the justification.

 

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