On 1 Nov 2022, at 3:03 PM, Owen DeLong 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Nov 1, 2022, at 05:07, John Curran 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The “double-charging” that you allege was imposed by the ARIN Board of Trustees 
was actually self-imposed by you; i.e., you chose to maintain separate billing 
relationships with ARIN in order to continue benefiting from annual maintenance 
fee cap applicable to services for legacy IPv4 number resources.  This fee cap 
isn’t applicable to IPv6 number resources nor the registration services fee 
paid for an organization that consolidates resources under a single 
registration services plan including non-legacy resources.

We will continue to disagree about this, sir.

When I made the mistake of signing the LRSA, it was fee per ORG and I 
maintained a single ORG that had both LRSA and RSA resources and a single 
billing relationship.

When the board pulled the rug out from under that relationship, despite the 
material adverse change in the relationship, I was not allowed to terminate the 
LRSA and keep my resources without incurring significant financial penalties 
and loss of protections that were material to my willingness to sign the LRSA 
in the first place. Further as a result of that action by the board, ARIN 
(whether by board decision or by staff choices surrounding the implementation 
of that decision) chose to bifurcate my organization into two separate 
organizations for ARIN’s convenience in handling the new billing structure.

Owen -

That was your choice:  you could have consolidated into a single billing 
relationship if you wished or opted (as you did) to maintain distinct billing 
relationships in which each relationship was billed for services for a distinct 
and non-overlapping set of resources.

“Double charging” implies being charged twice for the same services and that 
was never the situation in any case.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers



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