> On Nov 1, 2022, at 12:14, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On 1 Nov 2022, at 3:03 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> On Nov 1, 2022, at 05:07, John Curran <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> The “double-charging” that you allege was imposed by the ARIN Board of >>> Trustees was actually self-imposed by you; i.e., you chose to maintain >>> separate billing relationships with ARIN in order to continue benefiting >>> from annual maintenance fee cap applicable to services for legacy IPv4 >>> number resources. This fee cap isn’t applicable to IPv6 number resources >>> nor the registration services fee paid for an organization that >>> consolidates resources under a single registration services plan including >>> non-legacy resources. >> >> We will continue to disagree about this, sir. >> >> When I made the mistake of signing the LRSA, it was fee per ORG and I >> maintained a single ORG that had both LRSA and RSA resources and a single >> billing relationship. >> >> When the board pulled the rug out from under that relationship, despite the >> material adverse change in the relationship, I was not allowed to terminate >> the LRSA and keep my resources without incurring significant financial >> penalties and loss of protections that were material to my willingness to >> sign the LRSA in the first place. Further as a result of that action by the >> board, ARIN (whether by board decision or by staff choices surrounding the >> implementation of that decision) chose to bifurcate my organization into two >> separate organizations for ARIN’s convenience in handling the new billing >> structure. > > Owen - > > That was your choice: you could have consolidated into a single billing > relationship if you wished or opted (as you did) to maintain distinct billing > relationships in which each relationship was billed for services for a > distinct and non-overlapping set of resources.
No, I didn’t want to be bifurcated in the first place… I was given no choice in that, nor was I given the option of vacating the LRSA in light of this material adverse change. > “Double charging” implies being charged twice for the same services and that > was never the situation in any case. And indeed, services I was previously being charged for once I was now being charged for twice… No change in the services received, just the billing model. That change wasn’t at my behest, it was an ARIN board decision. Owen
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