You can only lease what you own. What people are trying to do here is
pretend they own the resources and earn money with an asset they don't
own despite everything that what IP addresses have always meant for.
IP leasing is an attestation that the resource holder doesn't justify
for those resources anymore, therefore they should be revoked and
assigned to someone else who really justifies for it. ARIN should use
any financial and legal resources it has to invest in a efficient
reclamation process in order to keep its missing to assign shared
resources to those who really need them to build internet
infrastructure, not do those who wish to speculate around IP space.
Fernando
On 08/05/2023 01:40, Ron Grant wrote:
Pitch perfect points herein:
- Transfer market already successful
- Avoids a "highly litigious reclamation process"
- Leasing is a natural evolution of the Transfer process
- Section 12 allows both for a reclamation due to misuse, and for a
green light after 5 years.
I withdraw my initial "can o' worms" objection - when likening them to
transfers, it looks like we already have controls in place.
On 2023-05-07 3:08 p.m., David Farmer via ARIN-PPML wrote:
In my opinion, the 60-month probation on transfers in section 4.1.8
is intended to prevent immediate monetization through the transfer
market of IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list. Allowing the
lease of IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list prior to the
end of the 60-month probation would seem to flaunt the intent of the
probation. However, once past the 60-month probation, allowing the
transfer or lease of IPv4 resources seems consistent with
the policies intent.
I would like to point out that the transfer market has been
remarkably successful in making IPv4 resources voluntarily available
that otherwise would not have been available or would have required a
highly litigious reclamation process to be made available. In
addition, leasing seems to be a natural evolution of the transfer
market for those that do not have the capital funding to obtain IPv4
resources on the transfer market. Finally, despite a few issues, the
waiting list has also been remarkably successful at ensuring any IPv4
resources returned to ARIN, for whatever reason, are redistributed to
the ARIN community.
Suggestions that ARIN should instead auction the waiting list
resources, while seemingly logical, given the success of the transfer
market, nevertheless seem incompatible with ARIN's not-for-profit status.
In summary, leasing IPv4 resources obtained from the waiting list
after the 60-month probation should be allowed. Prior to that,
leasing should not be allowed. How we effectively enforce that is
another question entirely, and I personally don't have any good
answers to that question.
Thanks
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:54 AM WOOD Alison * DAS
<[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning PPML!
I would like community feedback on the leasing of ip space that
is obtained from the waitlist. Please let me know what you think
and if a policy proposal would be warranted.
Thank you!
-Alison
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