Hi Stefan,

----- Stefan Seyfried <[email protected]> a écrit :
> Hi Torsten,
> 
> Am 10.12.25 um 13:55 schrieb Torsten Duwe:
> 
> > Knowing you and knowing the RPi5, I strongly suggest you have a look at 
> > alternate
> > platforms; my personal favourites are rk3588 based; YMMV.
> > 
> > The Pi5 NVME IF has only a single lane, which only works reliable at Gen2 
> > speed.
> > To compare, the Rock5B I'm currently typing to has a quad-lane Gen3. The 
> > Rock 5B+
> > splits that into 2x2 Gen3 if you prefer. There are some boards with 2.5Gb 
> > Ether,
> > if you want to extend into NFS. The quad-core CPU is not bad, but the 
> > current state
> > seems to be to add at least 4 more "little" cores, if not another 4 
> > medium-sized ones.
> > So long story short: the Pi5 might not be the best choice starting already 
> > with the
> > hardware, let alone the documentation.
> 
> I am biased here.
> 
> Just last week, i put a raspi os on my first Raspberry Pi Model B, to 
> use my RaspyRFM module for a POC decoding my wmbus watermeter.
> 
> What do I want to convey with this nice story?
> With a Raspberry Pi I can, more than 10 years after it was initially 
> sold, download a up-to-date OS image *from the original vendor* and use it.
> 
> All other ARM board vendors from boards I have, provide, if at all, a 
> badly hacked together debian or ubuntu image with a frankenstein'd 
> Kernel where you are lucky to find sources at all. You can download this 
> image from some crazy google drive account or a dropbox link which might 
> be available tomorrow -- or not.

You can use higher end systems such as:
* MINISFORUM MS-R1  
https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-ms-r1-workstation?variant=47289624690933
* Radxa Orion O6 https://radxa.com/products/orion/o6/

Yes, they are more expensive, but also much more powerful (armv9+ with lots of 
RAM, etc.) and with a proper EFI boot and a good upstream support.

Maybe better to buy one of this higher end system instead of multiple RPi 5?

Cheers,
Guillaume


> 
> Maybe this situation has changed, and 10 years from now I will be able 
> to tell. Today, I continue to just use what worked well for me and 
> that's Raspberry Pies. I'm too old to waste time with the cheap SOC of 
> the day and I'd rather trade some performance for ease of use and 
> hassle-free operations :-D
> 
> Oh, just checked and found that the Rock5 would be significantly more 
> expensive than the Raspi500+ I just ordered, so remove the "cheap" in 
> the last sentence ;)
> 
> My obsworkers have been running on a RPi400 and two RPi4B/8GB, all with 
> USB-Connected SSDs, so replacing the 400 with the 500+ will be a welcome 
> improvement, even if theoretically there would be more performant 
> options available.
> 
> Best regards, and thanks for your concerns, but I prefer to not follow 
> your suggestion :-)
> 
>       Stefan
> 
> (And yes, I know, the raspberry pi also needs frankenstein kernel hacks, 
> the first model until today does not run right with a mainline kernel, 
> this is why I use raspi os on it, but at least I can get a raspi os for 
> it after > 10 years).
> -- 
> Stefan Seyfried
> 
> "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over
>   public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman

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