On 7/2/2008 1:51 PM India Time, _rayrai2k_ wrote:

> we are not so great to brand Lataji's voice as ugly...  

It is not a question of out greatness. One might need knowledge of 
basics of music to say whether she or ARR knows music or not (that she 
and him know well), but whether I like her voice or not is totally my 
personal observation and I can very well say it even if I am not great.

> Please have the same respect to her as ARR does.

Why should ARR respecting or not respecting some person should become a 
guideline for me to respect or not respect that person?

 > Haven't you heard when ARR spoke about Lataji.

I have heard hundreds of persons, including ARR, say and write about 
Lataji and others, so how should that affect me? Am I to repeat what ARR 
or someone else says about someone?

 > She is old now but she is almost like our mother we dont call our 
mother ugly just because she is old.

You used ugly in the sense of beauty, or even in the sense of overall 
personality, shifting the reference to another field. Nobody looks at 
her parents from an angle of physical beauty. But voice and individual 
aspects of personality are different things altogether.

> 
> I guess ARR's first duet was with Shwetha Shetty (Mangta hai kya -
> Rangeela)
> 
> However Lataji + ARR lukka chippi is the most impeccable one both give
> the true picture to that song. Though Lataji sounds old its very muuch
> required and ARR singing like a free bird in the air just thrilled to
> conquer the height. A perfect song. This will be remembered in the
> next years that has to come.

Hmm, here also, I fully differ.

RDB's music is not timeless. It will die in a year or so.

ARR has earlier given many a timeless songs -- if we hear Chayya Chayya, 
Tu hi Rey, Kahna Hi Kya, Kal Nahin tha jo kya hai, Ye jo zindagi hai and 
dozens of others even today with the same love and happiness that we 
felt it when we had heard them first few times. When we remember these 
songs, we go and pic the cassette/ cd/ mp3 and hear them again, and keep 
on hearing. That is what timeless is. Nadeem-Shravan's Pardesi Jana 
Nahin is also such a timeless song, still retaining every ethos, pathos, 
beauty that it had more than a decade earlier.

But, There are other songs by ARR which become hits, topped all charts 
at that time, but then lost steam in the course and today nobody craves 
to hear or mentions them. When did you last feel like listening to 
Muqqala Muqqala, columbus, Dil Ki chori ho gayi, O Mariya (dil hi dil 
mein), babu lo chal gaya and dozens of others. Not forgotten, we still 
love to talk about their past glory, but it doesn't enthuse us to hear 
them now. They are not timeless.

It is quite possible that you don't get to hear some good song for years 
or even decade, but still, when a reference of that song comes, one 
talks about just its past glory, or one feels a yearning to hear it 
again. That is what differentiates a timeless song from a limited-life song.

I think RDB's songs are also having a short life span. They feel good to 
hear now, they are hits, topping the charts, but may be in a year from 
now, Khalbali, Roobaroo and Pathshala will be shelved. Will only be 
talked about as a history and will not be heard. Whereas, I think, title 
song will survive and start sounding further good with time.

Among the latest ones, Pappu can't dance will get shelved one or two 
years from now, and ADA will survive for generations to come.

-- 
V

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