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Check This Link --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 2:19 AM man, i can understand that u hate JA movie the core now u r pinching the music too. this is ridiculous in my context.. to u azeem-o-shah- in-shah is song is "irritatingly louder".. which to me, is a big joke.. even Joginder was able to change his stance on JA's music.. u r the odd one out now! i wudnt be surprised if you feel lagaan and swades songs as irritantingly louder! On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:17 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: On 7/18/2008 8:35 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote: > hehe Rawat, you will be disappointed to know that he is indeed the > composer. AG is the best and gets the best out of ARR. I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR. ARR didn't at all get the feel of the period movie. It seems ARR had absolutely no idea the large - big - huge - grand - great - showman style in which AG was making the movie. So, ARR composed music which is very personal, individualistic music, and that didn't match at all, didn't fit at all in the grandeur of the movie. Result was disastrous. music sunk down without a trace in the movie. This would be the only movie of ARR in which the director didn't butcher the songs, still the songs didn't become noticeable, just because the songs were on a different concept as if ARR was composing for a soft love story between Jodha and Akbar, but the music movie was Princess and Queen Jodha and Azeemoshaan Shanshaah Akbar from beginning to end. Azeemoshaan Shanshaah is the only "public" song, and I found it irritatingly loud. Moulded lyrics worsened it. How could it happen? Why, if ARR and AG are so intimate? Didn't AG tell ARR what he is doing in the movie so that ARR would have included the grandeur in his music? it seems AG kept on emphasizing to ARR that he is making a love story between Jodha and akbar, and that is why ARR created such a personal music for the film, missing out on the grandeur. Mughal-e-azam also had the 100% classical personal song Prem Jogan Ban Ke, that was shot on Dilip and Madhubala in the garden overnight. But rest of the music was mostly with the grandeur that befits on a period movie of this scale. Even the songs between individuals had a grandeur of a period movie. ARR missed on this grandeur, and gave three looooonnnnng personal songs - jashnebahara, in lamhon ke daman mein and khwaja mere khwaja. That was disproportionate for the film. Though I don't blame ARR for Manmohana fiasco. The song was so long and too much noticeable, but that also I think is because AG must have kept on emphasing to ARR about showing hindu Jodha doing prayers in Muslim Akbar's palace, so ARR gave it a lot of importance and created such a loooonnnnggg non-subtle song that pinches in ears. JA would always hold the crown of music going in one direction and film going orthogonally to that. And I blame AG 100% for that. he took ARR for a ride for this film. And ARR lost by not giving a "pyar kiya to darna kya" level of song in it. I think ARR was just not knowing that he can give such a song in it. > > On 7/18/08, *V S Rawat* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > com>> > wrote: > > On 7/18/2008 6:43 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb Farooq_ wrote: > > > Is out boss not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's What's Your > > Raashee? The wikipedia page > > (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ What%27s_ Your_Raashee% 3F) shows SEL > as > > music directors. I am completely surprised. Ashutosh has said in some > > interview some days back that he wants A.R.Rahman for it. So sad! > > > > Whatever. > > My view is that Ashutosh is not really a song-music person. He might > have good ear for music but he doesn't have imagination enough to give > good treatment to songs. > > All songs of Lagaan/ Swadesh were sort of fit in the movie. There > was no > special scene, no great visuals, no imagination at all. All routine > scenes, all daily life situations. Just on the run. > > At most, a situation was created for the Kailash Kher song in Swades, > but how shabbily it was patched in. > > So, I think it is no loss for ARR if Ashutosh goes away. It was > Ashutosh's films that were benefitting from ARR's music, the films > themselves didn't add to the beauty of ARR's songs. > > Ashutosh is not a 1% of Mani or Shankar when it comes to songs > picturization. > > Of course, a film getting hit makes the music reach more persons, there > is no denial of that. > > And, if ARR feels comfortable with Ashutosh and becomes more creative > giving his better ones, then of course, it is a loss for us if Ashutosh > breaks away. > > I didn't mention JA because the movie went of a totally different track > away from music. I don't even remember where Jashnebahara or lamho ke > daaman had been. Such a forgettable treatment. And remember the stale > situation of Manmohna, the gaudy money-waster sets of > Azeem-shaanshahansh ah give pain when remember. JA was a shit, confused, > purpose-less movie. > > I always felt that SEL are a perfect fit for Ashutosh's level. > > -- > V -- V
