In my opinion, the personal, soft nature of the songs of ARR nicely
complemented and created a nice counterpoint to the grandeur and
exhibitionist nature of the film.  JA was centrally about romance
between J and A, so the movie really did need soft, personal songs.  I
agree that the qawali should have been left in to make for a more
complete score.  To me, it was not at all congruent, just a nice
contrast which the movie uniquely dynamic.  ARR experimented in
counterpoint with RDB's BGM as well and has talked a lot about it.  


--- In [email protected], "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You also said that ARR's music was an absolute failure.  Now, you're
> backstepping.  If the music and film went in completely different
> directions as you clain, wouldn't be the movie have been a complete
> flop and ARR getting flogged left and right?  Hmmmmmm.........
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], V S Rawat <vsrawat@> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> > 
> > > ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work
> > > in JA in interviews.  Why would he lie?  To be politically correct? 
> > 
> > That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of 
> > understanding people go with.
> > 
> > I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was
> personal 
> > sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."
> > 
> > So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.
> > 
> > And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the 
> > exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music
> for it.
> > 
> > I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period movies
> are 
> > all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.
> > 
> > I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the
tone 
> > of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by
me. 
> > It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the
movie was 
> > released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times
and 
> > seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that
you all 
> > talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that
movie 
> > is going in a different direction than where the film was going?
> > 
> > That is an indication of current quality of discussions this group.
> Just 
> > praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.
> > 
> > > Please.  The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that
9/10
> > > families who I know from various parts of India say that the
music of
> > > JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's
> > > one of the best albums in bollywood recently.  Sales don't lie
either
> > > as this album has done very well commercially. 
> > 
> > People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they 
> > loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better 
> > than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are 
> > miles behind the level of ARR's music.
> > 
> > Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales 
> > charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth, 
> > Water, etc. were commercially flop.
> > 
> > > ARR purposely wanted to
> > > create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam, 
> > 
> > I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something
different. 
> > :-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.
> > 
> > > a type of
> > > musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of
> > > movie.  
> > 
> > I can believe this too.
> > 
> > And he succeeded.
> > 
> > JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any
period 
> > movie.
> > 
> > but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.
> > 
> > > If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be
> > > accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that
> > > time.  
> > 
> > Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you
> punctured 
> > it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote
> was a 
> > suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.
> > 
> > You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your
mails nor 
> > replying to you.
> > 
> > so i stop here.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Love live JA's music.  It's one of my all time favorites.  Your
> > > opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small
> minority.   
> > 
> > -- 
> > V
> >
>


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