yes, azeem o shahenshah is terrific. i caught hold of JA DVD couple of weeks before and played it in 5.1. the percussions is mindblowing. strong vocals and the movie version of the song is elongated for a perfect music treat.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:47 AM, ali ahad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we all said that before and we all know....A R RAHMAN's music is like > slow poison...it takes time to grow....believe me for the first hearing i > dislike the clip of the song "tu hi to meri dost hai " but now i wait for it > on tv....i love the song...its growing on me...same applied to my sister who > is not his fan...but likes his music and listen to taxi taxi and machakari > now a days...we both don't understand tamil...his magic is not lost...he > gives the kind of music as demanded by the movie....and still i can bet > ...no one in india can compose a SONG like AZEEM O SHAAN > SHAHENSHAH.....outclass...even here in Pakistan...people think the > same....so why are we giving quick reactions at his music...patience my > dears is the key....let the arooma fill the enviroment and then enjoy > "YUVVRAAJ" > > --- On *Mon, 10/6/08, Vijay Iyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: Vijay Iyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: After hearing a bit of the first Yuvraaj song..... > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 11:15 AM > > No offence Chord and Gopal and me are the last persons to get hurt over > these things. > > All the best ! > > thanks > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Good perspective and insight. Thanks for sharing with us. I >> certainly don't subscribe to the misbelief that ARR has lost it or >> that I would like a return to the 90s. I think I misworded my >> intentions and conveyed a presmptuous, generalized tone and comments, >> when I didn't mean the way it was perceived. I thought I had >> qualified the disappointment I heard from the clip with comments about >> how I don't like to predict an album from just a short clip and that >> I'm still excited. I always appreciate ARR as a progressive artist >> and in many ways, enjoy his more recent material than the older >> material, though I still believe that his best music so far was from >> the late 1990s to early 2000s. This does not however make me >> appreciate his current material less and I anticipate all of his new >> soundtracks with the same enthusiasm and love I have always had. For >> the sanity of this group, I will henceforth reserve all comments until >> the full soundtrack is upon us. >> >> We are blessed to have ARR in our life and his hard work is more than >> appreciated. We also appreciate having first hand information about >> ARR here. >> >> My apologies to those who I have offended here, esp. Gopal and Vijay. >> >> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, >> "Vijay Iyer" >> >> <vijay.mohan. [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > I think I can sum up and give a perspective of why Gopal reacted the >> way he >> > did. >> > When there are no releases, there are innumerable posts on this >> group asking >> > for release dates and superlatives going to the extent of saying "I >> cannot >> > wait for XYZ soundtrack and believe me its going to be the best" blah >> > blah... >> > >> > Simultenously, as people who manage www.arrahman. >> > com<http://www.arrahman.com/>, >> we keep trying >> to find >> > out the most authentic information and since we are also part of the >> group, >> > it is always the group which gets the information first hand. Also >> consider >> > the fact that A R R himself would have worked hard to complete the >> > soundtrack. >> > >> > And then at the end of it all, when after listening to 2-4 lines from a >> > promotional song, comments like "I cant believe Rahman did this" or >> "This is >> > really not Rahman of the 90s" blah blah start pouring, one doesn't know >> > whether to laugh it away (which I have learnt to do over the years) >> or say >> > "Sigh! after all the effort, this is really not warranted". >> > >> > True, every album / soundtrack may have pluses and minuses - And i >> say this >> > for all musicians worldwide but a detailed review and thought >> sharing can >> > happen later. >> > >> > Its only 2 days and only 2 lines from a song from a soundtrack which >> has 8 >> > songs has been played and we are already debating. >> > >> > By the same logic, please tell me why Enigma, Deep Forest, Michael >> Jackson, >> > Madonna, Nitin Sawhney, All the boy bands, Mark Snow, Jean Michel >> Jarre or >> > even S E L, Vishal Shekhar, LP, Salim Suleiman, Harris Jayraj, Ilayaraja >> > cannot re create the magic, popularity and the huge sales of their >> first few >> > albums / soundtracks ??!!. >> > >> > I go by a logic and im urging you to go by it too which is that if >> we with >> > our limited knowledge of music and access to limited people and limited >> > technology know so much (in our opinion) surely an artist like A R R >> with >> > the vast knowledge, access to so many talented musicians , >> filmmakers and >> > other creative people and the latest technology will also know not >> only as >> > much as we know but surely 2 cents more. >> > >> > So dear all - let us wait for Yuvvraaj which should release in the >> 3rd week >> > of this month. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Vijay >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:51 PM, arr_raghu <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: >> > >> > > Well, Pravinder, if we love something beyond sanity and if somebody >> > > criticizes it, the first reaction is anger..unless we are >> > > some yogis..It is not that we cannot take criticism but >> > > just that the frustration comes out as anger.. >> > > that is what happening here with most of the people.. >> > > It is their love for ARR rather than not able to take criticism.. >> > > After few days, both sides know what those comments mean.. >> > > >> > > Coming to Kisna, The best track is kisna piano-flute instrumental. >> > > It is a gem of a composition. Period. >> > > Even though the instrumental is of the same tune as the main ballad >> > > 'hum hain is pal yahan".. I somehow did not like that song for >> > > few days.. I guess it is because of the initial verbal part which >> > > did not convince me. >> > > However, after many days, when I dont even have that in my mind, >> > > it came back and haunted me..that is when I realized that it has >> > > some subconscious effect.. >> > > now, i do not consider it as a bad song at all.. >> > > >> > > If you want to mention Meenaxi, alright.. I have decided on one thing. >> > > ARR has proved time and again that no one can make as soulful music as >> > > He can.. I have no doubts on his abilities.. >> > > He satisfied me beyond my expectations. >> > > Now, only thing I wish him is the commercial success.. >> > > Weather I like it or not is immaterial now, I only >> > > want him to get that commercial success he deserves. >> > > I do not want the media to write off his commercial value. >> > > Let him do what clicks with mass too.. >> > > Thats what made me like JTYJN and sakkarakatti, they got good reviews. >> > > >> > > >> > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. >> > > com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com><arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups. >> com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>, >> >> > > "Pravinder Sheoran" >> > > <pravindersheoran@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Hi Raghu, >> > > > Thanks for taking my mail critically and not writing the stuff >> like "U >> > > > r not ARR fan", "What r u doing here" etc. >> > > > >> > > > I still remember when 'Kisna' released, I did not like the song 'Hum >> > > > hain is pal yahan' for many days. >> > > > However all my friends (who accused me that all I appreciated >> was ARR >> > > > and I was biased), they liked this song. >> > > > I started liking this song after a long time. >> > > > So maybe its the same case here, maybe i will be a great fan of this >> > > > Yuvvraj song later on. >> > > > Bust for the moment I just do not like it. >> > > >> > > > While everyone expressed their opinion, i did mine too. >> > > > >> > > > Same with JTYJN, while my friends enjoy it very much and they >> tell me >> > > > how they were wrong in saying that I liked ARR blindly. >> > > > They say that no one can make a great song like "Kabhi kabhi aditi". >> > > > Its makes me happy coz finally common audience has also been reached >> > > > by ARR. >> > > > But for real happiness I would wait until next 'Meenaxi' releases. >> > > > >> > > > Regarding the current issue, there is a lot of frustration in the >> > > > group. I first time saw Gops reacting with anger as well. >> > > > Its true that a few people who want attention, write something >> against >> > > > ARR and then everyone responds and they must be feeling happy >> about it. >> > > > There maybe some Anti-ARR elements too here. >> > > > But guys plz take it easy. >> > > > Let us keep discussing whether we like less or more, we r still here >> > > > for the same factor; ARR. >> > > > >> > > > Pravinder. >> > > > >> > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> >> <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups. com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>, >> >> > > "arr_raghu" <arr_raghu@> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > I do not know what made you feel so.. >> > > > > but I am surly enjoying the new yuvvraaj sound. >> > > > > >> > > > > I know what the problem is.. >> > > > > Taal came when ARR was still very fresh in hindi.. >> > > > > in those days as there were no mimics, his sounds stand apart.. >> > > > > And it could create an immediate impression on everybody. >> > > > > But now, everybody is trying to produce the same rahman sound. >> > > > > Its tough to stand apart.. even with his best work, it is >> difficult to >> > > > > create the same impression as in 1990s. >> > > > > That does not mean the music is inferior, it only takes time to >> > > > > prove itself.. >> > > > > >> > > > > Anyway, whatever we heard is only starting part of the song.. >> > > > > the sound is very clear..he added instruments one by one.. >> > > > > nothing bad about it..as per your complaint,it is only about >> humming. >> > > > > We did not get to hear the interludes.. that is where all the >> > > > > treasure will be.. >> > > > > >> > > > > You say the first Taal trailer had best sound but what is it.. >> > > > > There is no best in Taal..May be there were differences in >> those days >> > > > > but now, I cannot pick what is best in Taal.. >> > > > > is it Nahin Saamne? Ishq Ishq? Ramta jogi? Or Taal western? >> > > > > Well, some people I know say Kariyena is best in Taal. >> > > > > >> > > > > -R >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> >> <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups. com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>, >> >> > > "Pravinder Sheoran" >> > > > > <pravindersheoran@> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all, >> > > > > > I absolutely agree with Chord here. >> > > > > > I remember when JTYJN music released and Chord said it wasn't as >> > > good >> > > > > > as expected, I was so angry and had written against Chord. >> > > > > > But later on I realized that its true, JTYJN was never as >> par ARR >> > > > > > standards. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Now with Yuvvraj trailer, ask your heart guys, what do you >> feel when >> > > > > > you listen to that hummimg which by no standards seems to >> have been >> > > > > > composed by ARR. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Those who say that we should wait until full song releases; well >> > > guys >> > > > > > remember Taal tarilers, the best tune was released in the >> very first >> > > > > > trailer. >> > > > > > So don't expect that Ghai has some surprise hidden in this song. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Please do not be angry, coz After listening Meenaxi or Jodhaa >> > > Akbar, i >> > > > > > can't digest JTYJN or this yuvvraj trailer. >> > > > > > There is something seriously wrong here, I can sense that. >> > > > > > After spending nights and nights talking about ARR with friends, >> > > after >> > > > > > trying my best to make everyone believe ARR was best, I can't >> > > believe >> > > > > > i would ever write such mail in this group. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Pravinder. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. >> > > > > > com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> >> <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups. com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>, >> > > "Chord" <purevibz@> wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > LOL.....Oh, I see. If we criticize anything about ARR's music, >> > > > we're >> > > > > > > not fans. LOL. This topic is not worth responding to after >> > > this. >> > > > > > > Let it go guys. I'm just as excited about Yuvvraaj as all >> of you. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In >> arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> >> <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups. com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>, >> >> > > Kumaresh-n <kumaresh.n86@> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > So called fans... >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2008/10/4 Gopal Srinivasan <catchgops@> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > One of those times that makes me wonder if Arr is >> better off >> > > > > > without >> > > > > > > > > fans >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > || V i s h w e s h || wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > You guys... I don't understand that why are you in >> so much >> > > > > > hurry to >> > > > > > > > > present your thoughts after hearing only tiny bit of piece >> > > > out of >> > > > > > > the whole >> > > > > > > > > soundtrack which could be much different than what is >> > > presented >> > > > > > in the >> > > > > > > > > trailer... so why don't we listen to the whole thing >> first & >> > > > then >> > > > > > > only share >> > > > > > > > > the wisdom... " The search is more important than the >> > > > destination >> > > > > > > " - a r >> > > > > > > > > rahman - --- On Sat, 4/10/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > From: >> > > > > > > > > Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> Subject: [arr] After >> hearing a bit >> > > > > > of the >> > > > > > > > > first Yuvraaj >> > > > > > > > > > song..... To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: >> > > Saturday, 4 >> > > > > > > October, >> > > > > > > > > 2008, 6:13 AM >> > > > > > > > > > My thoughts.... . >> > > > > > > > > > 1) People wishing for Taal II, forget it. No Taal >> hangover >> > > > > likely >> > > > > > > > > > with this record, and Rahman will never reach the same >> > > heights >> > > > > > as he >> > > > > > > > > > once did in the late 1990s (it's only normal since every >> > > > > > artist has >> > > > > > > > > > their peak and it doesn't mean that Rahman cannot >> come out >> > > > with >> > > > > > > > > > brilliant work today, as he has proven many times >> recently). >> > > > > > > > > > 2) Soundtrack will likely be quite commercial >> oriented with >> > > > > > hummable >> > > > > > > > > > melodies, but less of classical, old melody styles >> that we >> > > > heard >> > > > > > > in JA >> > > > > > > > > > and Ada. >> > > > > > > > > > 3) The tempo of this song is THE EXACT SAME TEMPO >> (speed) >> > > > > that you >> > > > > > > > > > hear in the instrumental piece on the website. May >> not mean >> > > > > > > anything, >> > > > > > > > > > just an observation. Frankly, I am a bit underwhelmed by >> > > this >> > > > > > > song SO >> > > > > > > > > > FAR, which may just only be my perception and >> expectations. >> > > > > > > > > > 4) I fear less ethnic percussion and more keyboard >> rhythms >> > > > > in this >> > > > > > > > > > soundtrack (as we just heard). >> > > > > > > > > > 5) Expect lots of strings, choirs, piano, and other >> > > symphonic >> > > > > > > > > > arrangements (as we have also heard a bit) with less of >> > > > > > traditional >> > > > > > > > > > Indian instrumentation as Western classical music >> appears to >> > > > > > be the >> > > > > > > > > > musical backdrop for this film. >> > > > > > > > > > 6) Rahman once said that the soundtrack is "mellow". >> Combine >> > > > > that >> > > > > > > > > > with words like peaceful and soulful, you get the idea. >> > > > > > > > > > 7) Many will be initially disappointed with the >> music, as >> > > > > > > comparisons >> > > > > > > > > > to Taal and Kisna will be abound, but the music will >> > > catch on >> > > > > > later. >> > > > > > > > > > Look for 1/5 review by Mr. Tootsie Pop of indiafm. >> > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity >> > > > > > > > > > 51 >> > > > > > > > > > New Members >> > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group >> > > > > > > > > > Ads on Yahoo! >> > > > > > > > > > Learn more now. >> > > > > > > > > > Reach customers >> > > > > > > > > > searching for you. >> > > > > > > > > > Y! 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