--- In [email protected], Ramesh R <triscod...@...> wrote: > Sure, but it's still odd to see works all the way from 2005 appear in what is > publicized as a 2008-2009 awards.
I understand the confusion. Typically, a digital album release in the united states through the likes of CD baby takes months before it reaches all the digital music stores. My album in case 6 months before I could hit the 24 stores that I planned. So, some of us plan the release dates a calendar year ahead. A 2005 release date does not mean they were actually 2005 released. Also, sometimes, a digital release in USA happens much later than the actual release in India. However, the distributors file the physical release date and not the US release date. So, I would not bank my thoughts on the release dates too much. They can be all over the place. JPF does a good job of earmarking all the work between the last awards function and this one. So, your fears might be put to rest. > That's a valid point. I make no claims about the JPF organization. I will > only construe the humongous list of nominees, with the works spanning many > years (and with classification errors), and the seemingly unrestricted voting > process as not lending much credibility to the award. I asked the exact same question to the founders of JPF when I saw my nomination in the rather large list. You have to understand that around 46,000 albums from 160 countries were submitted and in the end, according to the founders, less than 1/3rd of 1% were nominated. Finally, when the winners would be announced on August 27, less than 40 people (out of 46,000 musicians) would win. I am not sure if you have seen the nominees list for grammys but it could get pretty long too. > I think Krosswindz is a respected band that served Bangla music for a long > time now and so, I care about them. Care is a subjective thing ofcourse and > depends on each Artists' and his fans' priorities. > > You didn't understand the context. You were trying to justify the > legitimacy/credibility of the awards by pointing out that Krosswindz had > issued a press statement about their nomination so it must be credible. I'm > saying that one shouldn't use that logic. Just examine the facts. Of course, > in this case we both can agree to arrive at different conclusions. As an > example you might be aware of the Vote for Taj campaign that ARR composed a > song for. Have you looked into the background of the organization behind the > New 7 Wonders of the World? They came out of nowhere. The Taj Mahal was > lagging behind in votes, and there were multiple calls for people to sms > their votes. Now just because ARR composed a song for the campaign doesn't > mean that that the award has the merits that one would associate it with. On one side, you say you do not make claims about these awards. On the other side, you point to some organization that you seem to think is fraud. I do not know about Taj Mahal and new 7 wonders but I do know that Rahman puts it heart out into whatever he works on. To me, that is what matters and should come across - the pure passion of the organization and/or the individual. Brian Whitney, founder of JPF, worked hard for the last 10 years (thats a decade) to build a platform that could identify and reward independent musicians at no extra cost to qualify/nominate them. To me, that passion is a testament enough. You have to remember that each and every album has been ordered/bought, sampled, commented on, debated and nominated over multiple rounds. That is not easy work for any foundation - both in terms of time & money. The only reason that JPF is not as popular as the grammys or cannes/sundance (independent movie awards) is because of their relative age. They are only 10-12 years old when compared to most of the other awards functions which have been around much longer than that. I am sure as people like you and me debate and dissect them more and more, the word will spread out and soon, they will reach a critical mass where more people could appreciate what they are doing. > Ramesh, I would like to find out more about your personal work in music. Do > you happen to be an independent music producer as well? If so, would you not > be happy if your work got nominated next to your icon's ? > > This has nothing to do with what we're debating here. My point was only about > the nominees and the award process. Some of the questions/concerns you had might have been allayed if you were working in the industry. I just thought I might be able to answer you better if I knew you the basis of your perspective. Thanks for your dissent. Sometimes, it helps everyone to understand things better when there is a person in the group who likes to ask questions that most people are not willing to. Uday
