I am not sure if ARR would want to take the credit for the lyrics of Kata Kata . It is purely the director & lyricist's imaginations. I wouldn't blame ARR for Chiggy Wiggy either on the same note.
Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 4:00 AM, V S Rawat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 4/30/2010 11:56 AM India Time, _pravindersheoran_ wrote: > > > To be honest the way youngsters are going, Indian values will be a > > things of past very soon. > > > > Exactly. younsters are going en masse the wrong way faster than ever. > > And that is the exact reason why ARR and others should create such > gems reflecting indian values so that at least some youth get a change > to know what indian values are and then, to return to their roots. > > ARR has always given more output for upholding indian values than most > of the current generation of MDs. How many "indian" songs Himesh has > given, how many Pritam has given, and so on for Anu Malik (of course, > sandeshe aate hain was great) and Nadeem Shravan (does any one > remember any). But, ARR has a long list of songs vandemataram, jan gan > man, and even his totally filmy songs were having social message > courtesy PK Mirshra and Mehboob, and such a message in Urvasi was the > one that had brought me to ARR the first time (not Roja, unlike most > of you) and that bond has never weakened. > > The definitions of love and emotions changes with time. The shyness > and silent suffering sacrificing love of 50s is now a thing of past, > so much past that current generations don't even find and message in > that shyness and that silence and think that was stupidity of the > people of that time to be such shy and such silent and suffering and > do sacrifices. > > That made many sweet and great songs of 50s irrelevant and out of > place in today's times. > > But, global values don't change, motivating someone to do something > great doesn't change, patriotism doesn't change, social issues and > awareness of them doesn't change. That's why Pradeep's songs of 40s > and 50s and 60s are still stirring souls when heard, culminating with > all time great patriotic song "ai mere watan ke logo" that was first > rendered on 26 January 1963. It has been 47 years and still fresh. > Similarly many social issues raised in so many songs of Sahir still > remain as relevant as they were at the time of their creation. > > I think definitions of emotional and love will keep on changing in > future and ARR's emotional and love songs will loose their values for > future generations. > > But ARR's socially relevant songs, patriotic songs, etc. will remain > as fresh as ever. > > > > And then, only a few like us will just be left with our old > > memories and "Kata Kata" song. > > There are and will be many others silently (less vocally) sending > feedback and giving messages. > > One such feedback/ message is here: > > > http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2010/02/27/india_nominates_sylvester_stallone_de > > > Meanwhile, Aussie singer/actress Kylie Minogue has been mauled for > > her performance of "Chiggy Wiggy," which she sang in the movie > > "Blue." The track, written by Abbas Tyrewala, has been named in the > > Most Atrocious Lyrics category. > > Isn't that an odd honor for the costliest and most hyped song ever of > bollywood? > > I think as long as we don't see a Chiggy Wiggy sequels, seems such > feedback has reached home and has been accepted and acted upon. It is > too early to predict. Let's see what happens if Blue II gets made. > > -- > Rawat > > > > --- In [email protected] <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, V > S Rawat<vsra...@...> wrote: > >> > >> 18 years fan-hood of ARR does have its few points of discord. One > >> recent one had meet my utter condemnation of Chiggy-wiggy. > >> > >> Since then, it has not even a full year, and ARR has given us > >> Kata Kata. > >> > >> And Kata Kata has: -- Chhoto koi devar hoy to chhaati laagiye > >> (if there is any younger brother of the husband, keep him close > >> to your heart like your own son) > >> > >> Aur saas sasur ke aadar keeje paanye laagiye e e e (and pay > >> respect to father and mother of the husband, touch their feet) > >> > >> Re jaith jaithani samjhaave to maathe raakhije re (if elder > >> brother of husband and his wife teaches something, etch that in > >> your mind) > >> > >> Aur nandan ki saheli jaisi saath raakhiye re, o chori sun, saath > >> raakhijo ra (and keep the sisters of husband with you like your > >> friends, listen, o girl, keep them with you) -- > >> > >> A complete contrast the above has with chiggy-wiggy. > >> > >> Chiggy-wiggy was demeaning women, presenting them as brainless > >> objects to be won over by cheap, streetsmart tactics of males > >> for their pleasure, all this going contrary to the things that > >> ARR stands for. > >> > >> Kata Kata has suggetions/ instructions/ tips/ prompts that every > >> Indian mother tells her Indian daughter on wedding when the > >> daughter goes to a new home for the first time - the home of her > >> husband. It is holding the key how to keep the family together, > >> instead of breaking the bonds and snatching the husband from him > >> family and establishing a personal home for herself. > >> > >> I can feel every Indian buzurg (elder men and women) nodding > >> their head in deep-felt approval on hearing it. It is nothing > >> new, they themselves have been told the same at their own > >> wedding, and they themselves have told the same to their sons > >> and daughters at their weddings. It is pure indianness. > >> > >> And it covers so many aspects of Indian marriages that it is > >> like an audio-visual summary of what all happens in Indian > >> marriages. groom's male friends are teasing the groom, calling > >> him a goat getting sacrificed, brides' female friends are teasing > >> the groom giving him "funde" to do physical exercise to build his > >> body, ladies of the bride's family are listing the great > >> qualities of their daughter (paro se bhi halki hai) while males > >> of groom's side teasing their bhabhi (khatti hai), ladies of > >> bride's family are pleading to the groom to safeguard and treat > >> the bride with respect (bohari lagaiyyo na), pandit ji is having > >> his priorities kanya ko bulaao, muhurt nikla ja raha hai, ladies > >> of bride's family are abusing and mocking the groom calling him > >> of black complexion by negation, comparing him to crow, in hindi > >> belt there is a reallife ceremony called gali dena (abusing) > >> when ladies of bride's family do use demeaning words in songs to > >> mock at groom and his family. > >> > >> Kudos to ARR and Gulzar saab for creating a song that is going > >> to be National Matrimonial Anthem. It is going to be played at > >> every marriage hundreds of times, and why not, it have elements > >> for every occasion in an Indian marriage. > >> > >> This song is what ARR himself personifies unlike chiggy-wiggy. > >> ARR will be proud to be the creator of this song unlike > >> chiggy-wiggy. > >> > >> Hope comparing Kata Kata with chiggy-wiggy will make the contrast > >> clear to you. > >> > >> Kata Kata redeems Indian values that were inadvertently > >> cheapened by Chiggy-Wiggy -- > >> > >> Related issue: > >> > >> > >> I wonder what is in the song that Narendra Modi disapproved for > >> Gujarat. Kata Kata shows that ARR has all the capabilities to > >> come with a song full of Indianness, so ARR could come with a > >> song full of Gujarat-ness. Even Kata Kata itself represents > >> gujarat wedding like any Indian wedding. Instead of outright > >> rejecting a song, they should have told ARR individual elements > >> that they approve and disapprove of in the song, and let him > >> modify according to the feedback. It would have culminated into > >> a great song for Gujarat and a treat for music lovers. Sad that > >> Narendra Modi acted so high-handedly. > >> > >> -- Rawat > > >
