Hi James,
This is really a very interesting topic. If I go to the logfile, I see a
"NO WRITE FREE" if a user requested a WRITE-token when none was available.
I would also expect it to say something like "FLOAT GRANT READ" if a user
logs in and does not request a WRITE-token.
If I go through the API, I can see that the users license type is FLOAT
and that she/he is assigned a READ or a WRITE, but there is no way to
determine if the user WANT'S a WRITE-token or if the user has not
requested (needed) one.
I looked at the 100 last uploaded logfiles to rrrLic, and find only these
variations concerning FLOAT-licenses:
FLOAT ADMIN RELEASE
FLOAT EXPIRED WRITE
FLOAT GRANT WRITE
FLOAT NO WRITE FREE
FLOAT RELEASE
FLOAT WRITE UPGRADE
There is no instance where there is a FLOAT GRANT READ or anything
equivalent.
This makes me question if the ARSystem works in the way that has been
described in this thread. Namely that the server does not grab a
WRITE-token until the user actually performs a submit or modify call...
If someone has a system where this actually happens, I would appreciate to
get a look at the user.log-file. Or even better, discuss it in person with
me at the RUG/BUG/BUW. You may find me wandering about, or you could give
me a call at +46 705 85 43 00. I have a shirt wich reads "License
Management" on the back...
Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se/sv/
> Misi:
>
> Thank you for reminding us about rrrLicense. Does it show if the user was
> given a write token or just a Float (Read)?
>
> Unfortunately, due to DoD restrictions on Temporary Duty, I am not able to
> attend RUG/BUW this year. Also, I am looking for a new position.
>
> James McKenzie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: After all these years (10) confused about Licensing
>
> Hi,
>
> The user.log-file has the information you need to determine if you should
> give a user USER-FIXED or USER-FLOATING license. You can allways use the
> free portion of our rrrLic-tool to determine how well you are tuned, and
> if
> you have the correct mix of licenses on your server.
>
> Concerning the APP-licenses, there is no information in the logfile, but
> you
> can get to it through the API.
>
> We have just created a first version of a rrrLicMonitor that use the API
> to
> poll the statistics of APP-usage to a logfile. This will enable us to do
> the
> same calculations for the APP-licenses as we have done for many years with
> the USER-licenses.
>
> The basic idea of license tuning, as we see it from our experience is
> this:
> 1. Find the absolute peak hours during the period you are analyzing (maybe
> 6 weeks)
> 2. Use the cost ratio between FIXED/FLOATING licenses to decide how much a
> user should be logged in to get a FIXED vs FLOATING license. This value
> has
> allways been 2.5 (or 40%). In other words, if a user is logged in more
> than
> 40% during peak hours, give him a FIXED license.
> 3. When you have found the absolute number of users to give a FIXED
> license,
> put all the rest of your money on FLOATING licenses.
> 4. Repeat the analasys every month or so, to find the users that has
> changed
> their usage behaviour.
>
> See you at the "RUG"!
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>
>> James:
>>
>> It's going to be interesting for many Remedy users now that the same
>> enforcement is being used for app licenses with the 7.0 apps. We have
>> a mix of fixed and floating licenses, with a different number of
>> licenses and a different mix for each of the apps. We have no way to
>> guage the current usage either (5.6 apps).
>>
>> Axton
>>
>> On 8/28/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark:
>>>
>>> This has since been fixed. This was never supposed to be this way.
>>>
>>>
>>> James McKenzie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Walters
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 4:53 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: After all these years (10) confused about Licensing
>>>
>>>
>>> Guess again :-)
>>>
>>> SW00218113 Server modified so client tools will not claim a
>>> floating
>>> write token at login time when using a preference server. Requires
>>> corresponding client tool patch 003 (6.3) (i.e., User Tool, Alert
>>> Tool) to produce the expected results.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:18:40 -0400, Geoff Endresen
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >So I guess this is a feature, not a bug ;-)
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: Axton Grams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>Sent: Aug 25, 2006 6:16 PM
>>> >>To: [email protected]
>>> >>Subject: Re: After all these years (10) confused about Licensing
>>> >>
>>> >>How convenient for them.
>>> >>
>>> >>Axton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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