I don't know whether there's a clear answer on whether separating the MT
function is better performance-wise on the whole than combining it with the
AR Server.  The real dividing lines on that revolve around issues like
security, application function, corporate policies on hosting apps,
geographic distribution of the user base, robustness of the various network
channels, etc.

I think an 8x8 server would probably work just fine for both, though a 4x8
would probably work about as well.  Make sure you read the white paper on
multi-threading and CPU usage, so that you use the CPUs as efficiently as
you can.

Rick

On 11/16/06, Simmons, Theodore J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So is it recommended keeping the two separate MID Tier and Resource?

On another note, I did confirm that the configurations originally posted
were a typo.

Would a 8 processor 8 GB RAM HP Server be good for both?

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mid Tier and Resource on Same Server

No kidding - I've got 10gb RAM and dual opterons under both SQL Server
2005 and the AR server 7.0.01 (separate servers now, but originally
shared during our early testing) and I am ordering another box equally
strong for mid-tier because the 6gb RAM dual Xeon machine I have
mid-tier on right now is inadequate to the task. This is definitely
hogzilla software when it comes to hardware resources. And yes, these
are all HP DL385s but storage is local or attached SCSI, not SAN.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://remedy.unt.edu/helpdesk/
-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mid Tier and Resource on Same Server

That was my first reaction as well.  I'm glad Rick spoke up first.  7.x
is a memory hog.  Go to 8GB of RAM to be on the safe side.

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mid Tier and Resource on Same Server

**
Oh, Ted, don't even think about running that combo on anything less than
4 GB of RAM, and for your usage, I would think even that to be probably
on the low end of acceptable.  Who would build an 8x server with just 1
GB RAM?  That makes no sense at all.  It isn't adequate for any of the
tasks, much less all of them.

Rick

On 11/16/06, Simmons, Theodore J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

       Listers-

       Would it be advisable to put Miditer 7.x,ARS 7.x running the
ITSM 7.x
       applications on the same server with the below configuration?
The
       alternative would be to use one of the below configurations for
Resource
       only and then use MID Tier on a shared IIS server.

       Expected 120 users of ITSM and using the Mid Tier as a Requestor
to the
       greater corporate environment of 5000 users. The server would be
a
       standalone box dedicated only to Remedy.

       Any and all opinions welcome.

       Windows 2003
       IIS
       #1
       HP Proliant SAN Attached Server 8- WAY
       OPTERON 254 2.8 GHZ
       1 GB RAM
       GIGABIT Ethernet

       Or

       #2
       HP Proliant SAN Attached Server 4-way
       OPTERON 254 2.8 GHZ
       4 GB RAM
       GIGABIT Ethernet


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