Does hosting your own instance make it no longer RoD? On Wed, Jun 15, 2016, 4:42 PM Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
> ** > > Amazon has already been hacked at least once. I know of one DoD RoD > customer that hosts their own instance for security reasons. > > Rick > On Jun 15, 2016 16:10, "Joe D'Souza" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> >> I think it mostly comes down to the answer to this question – would you >> be ok to let a valet drive and park an expensive car or motorcycle you own >> or would you want to do it yourself. Would you trust that valet to tell you >> after he has parked it if he accidentally dinked it or hit a huge pot hole >> if that dink or damage is not easily visible? If so maybe you are the kind >> of person for who services like the cloud would work quite well with if >> functionally it offers you everything else you have been looking for. >> >> >> >> Personally I do not think that services that host cloud based services >> publicly acknowledge their service was compromised in the odd event it was >> unless it was quite obvious it has been to the end customer which can sort >> of be a disturbing thought. There may or may not be a threat or a breach >> every month.. Maybe every week. Maybe even every day. I honestly do not >> think they would upfront about such incidents when and if it occurs unless >> it was quite fatal. It could mean a risk to their business and they would >> not want that. >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:49 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Question - Service Now >> >> >> >> Just to play devil’s advocate, theoretically someone whose business >> depends on their internet-facing servers being trusted is going to likely >> spend more money on security than a company that sells widgets as their >> primarily line of business and views I.T. security as just an expense. I >> don’t know who hosts Service Now or BMC’s cloud servers, but I’d expect >> that they probably take it very seriously. Things can definitely slip >> through but if we’re all deploying MyIT and such to give people access to >> Remedy via their smartphones and tablets off the network, it’s really a >> question of whose cybersecurity you trust more. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> *Shawn Pierson * >> >> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer >> >> >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joe D'Souza >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:28 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Question - Service Now >> >> >> >> ** >> >> Exactly – but I would like to add its as safe as someone else’s computer >> who gives access to some of his trusted associates facing the internet. >> >> >> >> So once out there, it is as safe as any other “shared” resource with >> “limited public access” on the internet is. >> >> >> >> Whether you like it or not, that exposes the system to a few more >> vulnerabilities than a system that is internal and intranet facing. >> >> >> >> So whether it is ServiceNOW’s cloud or any other, it is the one risk you >> need to assume before investing in it. >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Rod >> Harris >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:44 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Question - Service Now >> >> >> >> ** >> >> If only I had a like button. Yes, cloud does seem to be a bit of a >> buzzword that you have distilled nicely with that T-shirt slogan. >> >> Thanks JDHood. >> >> >> >> On 15 June 2016 at 10:35, JD Hood <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ** >> >> It may be a T-Shirt slogan, but it's relevant nonetheless: "...There is >> no "Cloud" - It's just someone else's computer..." >> >> >> >> -JDHood >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Joe D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ** >> >> I do recall hearing rumors it was – not sure how long time ago. But take >> that information with a grain of salt as I do not know much details of what >> I had heard. >> >> >> >> ServiceNOW is primarily a system hosted on the cloud so is as vulnerable >> or strong as any other system on the cloud. >> >> >> >> So IMHO if security of your data is one of your top concerns, the cloud >> may not be the best place for you to be at. However strong the security, >> there is always a loophole to be found for someone who has the intent to >> find one. While this is true for systems hosted internally too, at least >> the vulnerability of the system isn’t exposed to the world if your system >> isn’t internet facing. >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 3:17 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Question - Service Now >> >> >> >> Does anyone know if Service Now has ever had their servers (with >> customer’s data) ever been hacked? >> >> >> >> >> >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: >> "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> >> >> >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> >> >> >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> >> Private and confidential as detailed here >> <http://www.energytransfer.com/mail_disclaimer.aspx>. 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