David. Easter, listers,

      I'd like to throw another log on this fire.

      We're ARS 6.0.1 users.  We also use Full Text Search (FTS) as well as
a Netcool/Remedy bi-directional gateway.  FTS is not available in ARS 6.3,
and is re-introduced in ARS 7.0.  The problem is that the most-current
supported Remedy release for the Netcool gateway is ARS 6.3.  Catch-22.

      ARS 6.0 is still supported - and will be until ARS 7.5 is released
(well past the 03/11 time change), right?

      I've sent this to my account manager asking for his help or to
escalate.  Do any of you have any more insight in this area?

Mike White
Office:  813-978-2192
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


                                                                                
                                               
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> That means we are immune to daylight savings time problems.

Patch 020 should still be loaded on 6.03 systems.  As previously posted, if
the patch is not loaded, the time calculations of operations that occur on
days between the new DST date and the old DST date may be off by one hour
depending on where in the system the time is calculated.  There is a
library within AR System that does not use the system clock to make its DST
calculations.  The patch updates this library to conform to the new DST
rules put forward by the Bush administration in 2005.  Since the AR System
server itself does use the system clock, many customers may be unaffected
by the DST change.  The library in question is used by some auxiliary
functions within AR System (e.g. the API and parts of the Mid-Tier).

BMC is doing some additional testing to determine what operations within AR
System would be affected were customers not to load the patch.  Once that
information is compiled, a notice will be sent to AR System customers and
made available as a Technical Bulletin.

You are correct that you would not be affected by the secondary issue of
workflow not firing during the actual change over to DST (2am - 3am) -
since the server would be turned off anyway.  I would strongly recommend
testing your configuration in a lab environment to see the full effects of
not loading AR System 6.03 Patch 020 if you choose not to load it.

Thanks,

-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit
BMC Software, Inc.

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Unless there are escalations that run during that hour (2:00 - 3:00 am)
that is either duplicated or not encountered at all.  As an aside, this
would include database backups, sync scripts with AD or other outside data
sources, etc.

So if you shut it down at say, 1:00 am to do a Db backup that ran from 1:15
to 1:45 am, then didn't restart until after 3:00, I think you'd probably be
in the clear.  Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Rick

On 1/5/07, Dwayne Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I understand from past discussions (see "Daylight savings time
again") that there may or may not be problem with Remedy and
daylight savings time, but patches are on the way.

Every morning we shut down our Remedy system in order to back
up the database.  Then we restart the system.  My guess/hope
is that when we restart the system, Remedy will set its clock
by the computer clock, and as long as the computer clock is
right, Remedy should be too.  That means we are immune to
daylight savings time problems.

Am I right?????

ARS 6.3 patch 014, HPUX 11 db, Oracle 9.2 db

Dwayne Martin
Computing Support
James Madison University
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