Oops, I should have read all of these before replying.  Sorry for the
bandwidth.

Nick

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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 8:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Freeing licenses

I would encourage you to read the problems I and others have seen with
this approach (exit app run process problems):

http://arswiki.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=10

Axton Grams

On 3/17/07, CONDREA, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> "Basically, if there is no activity by my user with the interval in
600
> seconds ..."
>
> The answer is: there is no way to free a floating license in less than
> 3600 seconds.
>
> To overcome this you have to define an AL that runs on Window Close
with
> action "Run Process - PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP"
>
> This behavior applies only to BROWSER.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ARSList
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:49 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
>
> Thank you for the tips, suggestions and Definition files.
>
> However...
>
> I have not been able to get this to work as an AL on Window Close
> through the Mid-Tier (Servlet 5.0.13, Java 1.4.2_13) 6.03 Patch 20.
>
> I am using the Form Remedy Support,
> AL
> Run Process - PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
> Basically I copied the DEF file you supplied and manually entered the
> Buttons and AL with a common form.
> Then I moved the AL to the above information duplicating the "Logout"
> button from the form in the Remedy Support.  I confirmed the Logout
> Button AL in the Remedy Support form does the same Run Process -
> PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP.
>
> I think the Mid-Tier / Internet Explorer (IE) does not provide the
> feedback in the Mid-Tier before the IE actually closes.
>
> I am beginning to think I should use the Interval AL.  But I am not
sure
> what the Interval means?  Could it (as I hope, but doubt) mean the
> interval when there is no activity by the user?
>
>
> Basically, if there is no activity by my user with the interval in 600
> seconds, I want them to get logged out... right?
> (The trick)
> If there is activity (how do I monitor this) can I stop this interval?
>
> Perhaps I should use (the one I don't know anything about) are
> escalations?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
>
> Not if you explicitly end the session, it is supposed to be released
> immediately.  Think of closing your user tool, that releases a
floating
> license; why should the same not apply to the mid-tier.  The logout
> servlet is supposed to do the same, but it doesn't some of the time.
>
> In all honesty, closing the browser should release the token, the same
> as the user tool does.  It should just be built into the mid-tier.  A
> lost session (i.e., logout or close browser) should release the
license
> immediately (no exceptions), to stay true to the nature of the
licenses
> as they are managed when using the user tool.  In all honesty, I think
> that until the mid-tier behaves in that way, it is defective.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On 3/13/07, Rocky Rockwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The last I heard license assigned to a user will stay with the user
> for
> > a minimum of 1 hour (configured in the admin tool). This is the
least
> > about of time you can set.
> >
> > *Rocky*
> >
> > Rocky Rockwell
> > eMA Team - Remedy Developer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Ph#1: 214-567-8874
> > Ph#2: 325-884-1263
> >
> >
> >
> > Wheeler, Dylan wrote:
> > > **
> > >
> > > Hi List,
> > > So I'm running into a problem with my licenses. We don't quite
have
> > > enough so I've been playing around trying to get the licenses
freed
> up
> > > when I can. I'm finding that the licenses on my server are
sticking
> no
> > > matter what though and I'm not sure what's keeping them there.
> > >
> > > If I open IE and login then click the logout button on the Home
Page
>
> > > it should release the license right? The license is still showing
as
>
> > > taken 15 minutes later in my admin tool.
> > >
> > > I created an AL and put in the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP command,
> > > execute on window close and left the run if open, permissions are
> set
> > > to public. Closing the Home Page in the user tool will close out
the
>
> > > application, but the license is still active. Closing the window
on
> > > the mid tier will leave the license active.
> > >
> > > Anyone run into this or have a clue what could be causing it?
> > > ARS/Mid Tier 6.3 Patch 21
> > > IIS on Windows 2003
> > >
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