David,

what if you don't have the ARS installation CDs? If I download ARS 7.0.1 from 
BMC support, does the server installer include the SearchServer?

I had also submitted a ticket to support, and this is support's reply, which 
again contradicts yours IMHO:

You will need to install the hummingbird before you install the FTS. You will 
also need to license the Hummingbird through the vendor
(http://www.hummingbird.com/support/dkm/registration.html)

The hummingbird has their package with their installer. Please, call 
hummingbird customer support and tell them what you are trying to do. They will 
provide you all the necessary information about hummingbird including the 
installation. 

It seems to me all this should be clearly documented in the 7.0 Configuration 
guide

Guillaume






From: Easter, David
Sent: Wed 03/21/07 4:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hummingbird SearchServer download - where?


** 
If you think of the physical box that AR System comes in, the Hummingbird 
Search Server is its own CD.  However, it does come in every box of AR System.

> -No search engine product files are included in the AR System installation.

That is correct - the SearchServer has its own installation executable.  
However, that installation CD comes with AR System.

> -A global key is provided to install the search engine; however the Full Text 
> Search product must still be licensed to activate the functionality.

That is also correct.  There is a global key for Hummingbird to activate the 
SearchServer itself.  There is a separate license key for AR System to activate 
Full Text Search - which is a function within AR System that uses the 
Hummingbird Search Server.

Thanks,

-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit
BMC Software, Inc.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hummingbird SearchServer download - where?


** 
Thank your for your reply David.

However your reply raises more questions. In page 7 of the presentation 
"Understanding Full Text Search in BMC Remedy AR System v7", done by Bob Poulos 
from BMC during BUW 2006, it is clearly stated this, which contradicts your 
statement:
Hummingbird SearchServer is installed as a separate product using the vendor's 
installation.
-No search engine product files are included in the AR System installation.
-A global key is provided to install the search engine; however the Full Text 
Search product must still be licensed to activate the functionality.




From: Easter, David
Sent: Wed 03/21/07 2:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hummingbird SearchServer download - where?


** 
Hi Guillaume,

  The Hummingbird SearchServer 5.4 used with FTS for AR System 7.0.01 comes 
with AR System.  Therefore, when you download AR System from the BMC website, 
you get the Hummingbird SearchServer.  You would not go to the Hummingbird web 
site.

  Licensing of FTS is purchased separately from AR System itself, but the code 
comes with every AR System.

Thanks,

-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hummingbird SearchServer download - where?


** 
 Hello List,

Where do I download the Hummingbird SearchServer 5.4 installer that would be 
used for a Remedy FTS? from the BMC website or from the hummingbird web site?

Thanks, Guillaume
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