That's what I do too and I do take a look at the Share application properties form too to make sure that all the entries that are supposed to be there specific to that application and patch you are installing have been created or modified..
Another test I do is if there is more than one server that we are installing on (e.g. Dev, QA, Prod), then I make sure that I choose similar installation options so that the object count would remain the same for all instances.. Sometimes this though is not a good way of looking at it as more often than not many sites do have server groups for QA and Prod but none for Dev, or the same might stand good for other such options that might lead to creation of a couple of more forms or a few more AL's or Filters.. But in case you have an environment where you get the luxury of installing as identical instances, the total counts of objects like Forms, AL's, Filters etc and comparing them does help.. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Worthington Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... I usually base everything on the log files. And the HTML ones at that. I just look for red. :-) The Asset install won't complete sucessfully unless it's able to extend the data model with those few extra classes. -tony -- Tony Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] 262-703-5911 Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <[email protected]> 04/09/2007 04:00 PM Please respond to [email protected] To [email protected] cc Subject Re: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... That seems to make sense. Are there some non-standard validation techniques necessary, or do the defined ones (i.e. log files, etc.) seem to be adequate? Rick -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Worthington Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 1:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... I heard that doing the asset install first works something like a validator of your cmdb install. i.e. if the asset extensions to the cmdb fail, you know your cmdb is messed up. If you get all the way through IM CM PM SLM and then your CMDB extensions fail... -tony -- Tony Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] 262-703-5911 Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <[email protected]> 04/09/2007 01:15 PM Please respond to [email protected] To [email protected] cc Subject Re: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... ** Gareth, is the inverse true that if Asset is installed first, that forms for other apps it creates would have to be modified by their parent applications when it is their turn to be installed? I'm trying to figure out if we're robbing Peter to pay Paul, and where the biggest net win is. Rick From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... ** Hello Gareth, That certainly sounds like a good reason to install Asset immediatly after CMDB install.. Thank you for your inputs.. Cheers Joe D'Souza Remedy Developer / Consultant, Windward Consulting Group, Virginia. ----- Original Message ---- From: Gareth Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 6:21:29 AM Subject: Re: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... ** Hi Joe/Chris, One slight amendment to the below - during recent ITSM7 Install & Config training it was recommended that the first ITSM7 application to be installed (if full ITSM is being installed) should be Asset Management. No technical reason, except that it will speed the time of the total installation up - after the CMDB is installed, IM, PM, or CM will install the AST forms across the CMDB. However when AM is installed & if it finds existing AST forms it has to modify them. Alternatively if AM is installed first it creates the AST forms and when subsequent apps are installed they do not modify them. AM also installs one or two additional CMDB classes. HTH, Gareth From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of strauss Sent: Friday, 6 April 2007 6:28 AM To: ARSList Subject: Re: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... ** In order... ARS 7.0.01 Patch 001 Admin and User 7.0.01 Patch 001 (do not install Crystal Reports part of User or you cannot uninstall it) Email engine 7.0.01 Patch 001 Mid-Tier 7.0.01 Patch 001 Flashboards 7.0.01 BMC Atrium CMDB 2.0.1 Patch 002 (there is now a Patch 003, supposedly) Approval 7.0.01 Assignment 7.0.01 Incident Management 7.0.02 Problem Management 7.0.02 Change Management 7.0.02 Asset Management (we do not have) SLM 7.0.02 (without collector) Patch 003 for IM, PM, and CM (do _after_ SLM) After that comes the Incident Management Task Template Add-On, RKM 7.1.01 (working on it now - was running RKM 7.1) and EIE with SQL Server Plugin (working on next). Then I have to reinstall SLM with the collector now that there is (supposedly) a way to use it with ServletExec AS instead of JBoss. Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. Remedy Database Administrator University of North Texas Computing Center http://remedy.unt.edu/helpdesk/ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: ARS 7.0.1, CMDB 2.0.1 and version 7 apps... ** Wanted to know what is the latest patch levels you are running at if you are on Windows 2003 and using MS SQL 2005... and have: ARS 7.0.1 Email engine Mid-Tier 7.0.2 BMC Atrium CMDB 2.0.1 Incident Management Problem Management Approval Server Change Management Asset Management SLM Wanted to know the latest patch level that you are running with out any problems if you have the above on: Windows 2003 MS SQL 2005 Also, if I remember right, the order of installation must be as stated above.. Correct me if I am wrong.. Is it necessary to install the Assignment Engine to have the newer versions of the above applications running? If so at what stage?? Joe -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 4/9/2007 10:59 PM _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
