If you're looking for more fuel, I can help.  Don't do it.  Matt is right -- 
if at all possible, don't mess with the Request ID.

It reminds me of those silly names the IT people give printers and servers, 
like "HPLJ5305RCWF" for "HP Laser Jet 5 in building 30, 5th floor, Right 
Corner, by the Water Fountain."  Nobody can remember the name and, most likely, 
nobody remembers why it was named that way.  Odds are, somebody recently moved 
it to a different location.

I've worked at several places where the name of the production Remedy AR server 
and the development server was different by only one letter.  Guess how many 
times I accidentally modified the production server in the middle of the day.  
(Answer:  About once a week. :-o)  Overloading simple names with model and 
location information is foolish.  There's a reason why they used to give UNIX 
boxes names like "ren" and "stimpy".  If a name is just as hard to remember as 
an IP address, you've defeated the whole purpose of host names.  But I 
digress...

Generally speaking, you don't want to try to overload field values with 
unrelated information.  For example, in a primary key field in a database 
table, you don't want to start concatenating last names and create dates and 
such.  As Matt said, if you want the Create Date, then you can jolly well query 
for the Create Date.
  
--Tim 
 
----- Original Message ---- 
From: Steven Pataray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:14:42 AM 
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Date in Case number 
 
** I can create a character field that displayes the HDyyyyddmm using the LPAD 
and DATENUM functions in an Active link but I don't know how to get the next 
Entry ID since the LASTID would get the last entry id since I have to use 
Execute On After Submit. How could I be sure that I'll always get the correct 
sequence number if it's After Submit since someone else could possibly submit 
before the transaction is complete?    
 
Thanks guys, I can use your recommendations to fuel my justification not to do 
this. 
Steve 
 
 
On 4/22/07, Rick Cook < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I agree with Matt - see if he 
can get by with just a displayed number that's  
formatted like he wants - create a new field into which to dump that 
reformatted Entry ID without mucking with what you already have.  You could 
maybe compromise by agreeing to send that new field out in a few key  
notifications and/or use it for reports, without having to rebuild all of 
the workflow associated with Field ID #1. 
 
Rick 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)  
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:30 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Date in Case number  
 
Steven, 
 
I would strongly suggest that you NOT alter the field 1 value. Add a new 
field. Do your business logic there and then propagate those changes to the 
table fields/forms of interest too. Simply add the time/cost of all of those  
changes and inform your management of the impact to the application and any 
future upgrades. See how much they think this is really worth. 
 
Generally I find that when you can use existing functionality (AKA: 
 'Create Date') and not have to do additional, expensive, and difficult to 
maintain "enhancements" appeals to most management types. 
 
-- 
Carey Matthew Black 
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)  
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) 
 
Love, then teach 
Solution = People + Process + Tools 
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. 
 
 
On 4/20/07, Steven Pataray <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> ** My managment would like to have a date included our HelpDesk Case 
> number i.e. HD20070420xxxxx. The xxxxx would be the actual sequential case 
number. 
> They would use this so they know what day a ticket was created. I  
> really don't want to create another field with this number appended to 
> each other since a lot of the reports and table queries are based on the 
Case number. 
> Does anyone have any advise how I can achieve this?  
> 
> Thanks 
> Steve 
> 
> ARS/HelpDesk 6.3 patch 19 
> Oracle 10g R1 Clustered 
> Application server Windows 2003 
 
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