Scott,

One of the reasons the Tivoli Service Desk was "dropped" by IBM is because the 
core programming language these applications were built in is an obscure 
language called KML. Just so you know, this KML language is an object oriented 
language, it is not the Keyhole Markup Language. I don't know what the acronym 
means though...

Guillaume





From: Scott Hammons
Sent: Wed 05/16/07 8:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?


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Emad,

Thank you for the clarification.  I was just passing on the information that I 
know at this time.  It appears that IBM will be putting quite a bit of its R&D 
effort into improving the Maximo product.  IBM already has a change management 
utility incorporated with it's CCMDB product.  By the way some of the people 
that have told me the benefits of the IBM product line are ex-Remedy people 
that went to Maximo after being let go by BMC.  

Personally I always thought it was a big mistake for IBM to let go of their 
original service product.  I'm a big fan of the Remedy product line and it 
looks like IBM has made these moves to go head to head with Remedy.  I guess 
time will tell if it is a good move or not.  

Thanks,

Scott



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Emad Zaky
Sent: Wed 5/16/2007 16:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?


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I am sorry Scott,
The Asset part in Maximo is good, since that's what Maximo was originally built 
for....
The rest of Maximo's ITSM still needs to evolve in a lot of aspects to compete 
with Remedy as well as other well established  ITSM apps...

 
On 5/16/07, Scott Hammons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
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Correction.  IBM purchased a company called Maximo that has a service desk and 
asset management component.  IBM also has CMDB called Change and Configuration 
Management Database (CCMDB).  I can get info on this products out to you if you 
contact me off list.  It appears to me that they are jumping back into the game 
through acquisition.  From what I've heard about the product and it appears to 
compete well with the Remedy product suite. 

Hope this helps,

Scott

Scott Hammons
Principal Tivoli Security Consultant
Advanced Integrated Solutions, Inc.
http://www.aisconsulting.net/
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of William 
Rentfrow
Sent: Wed 5/16/2007 15:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?

 
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Tivoli ITSM = IBM Tivoli Storage Manager.

This is not a ITSM type product whatsoever.

Historically Tivoli used to own Tivoli Service Desk, which previous to IBM's 
acquisition was known as Software Artistry's product line "Expert Advisor".  
The acquisition happened in 1997.  Tivoli rebranded everything in 1998 and spun 
half of the product line off into a company named Coreport - Corepoint lasted < 
9 months.  The entire product line was sold and killed off right around January 
of 2000.  Anyone care to guess who bought it? (Rhymes with "Beregrine") 

Tivoli does not have this type of product line any longer.  Strangely I know of 
at least company still running the EA product line. 

IBM does have some CRM products but nothing extremely similar to Remedy.




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:13 AM
To: mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?

 
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Doug, have your people look at the Forrester Wave pdf (which you can get from 
BMC's web site) that compares Service Desk platforms.  The Tivoli suite isn't 
in there, but about a dozen other (including BMC) are. 

Rick 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anderson, Douglas W.
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:01 AM
To: mailto:[email protected]
Subject: BMC ITSM vs. Tivoli?

 
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Hello ARSList Wizard-folk,

One of my co-workers has become enmeshed in a comparative analysis of BMC 
Remedy ITSM and IBM Tivoli ITSM. His group was all set to go with the 
ARS-version 7-based Incident, Problem, CMDB, & Knowledge canned applications 
when someone asked, "What about Tivoli?" I am glad I'm not in his shoes but 
would like to try to help. 

If you have compared the BMC and Tivoli solutions and have any tales to tell, 
documents to share (anonymous attribution or not), or Tivoli gotchas that ought 
to be examined carefully, please let me know (on- or off-list). 

Many thanks for any insights,
Doug Anderson

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