Amen Rick.  I did just that about a month ago.  Had a nice conversation, and
heard many of the same frustrations from Support about the situation.

No, the problem, as I believe stated in the first Email in this thread is
with the BMC executive suite....

They better come down from that Ivory tower, cuz they are about to toss the
baby out with the bathwater.


On 6/13/07, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

** Yeah.  Let's remember that Support, despite whatever problems it has on
its own, is trying to support the same applications and policies that we
are, and they have some of the same frustrations we have.  Let's not take
out our frustration with engineering and management on the only people most
of us can talk to at BMC - Support.

Save it up for RUG, when the real sources of the issues will be available
to talk to.  Spend the next few months accumulating data to support the case
you'd like to make, and take it to the execs and engineers there, along with
what you'd like done about the problem.  No guarantees that you'll get
satisfaction, but you should be able to get some face time with the people
who own the problems and maybe the solutions.  (Hint:  I would also spend
the next few months setting up appointments with the appropriate people - I
don't know how long that takes).

*Rick*
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**
Its because everyone is so dam fustrated at both the product and the
support.  Anyone who's been doing Remedy for a long time will remember
bad/difficult upgrades (I still have nightmares about 4-5).  I think the
support issue just compounds the problem.

Might be a tense RUG this year if something doesn't improve.

Ben Cantatore
Remedy Administrator
Avon
(914) 935-2946


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**
Apparently WE are the only ones noticing that Patrick !



On 6/13/07, *patrick zandi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
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We had this rant --- in Mar 15th.. I have noticed the RANT's are Getting
Closer.



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