That's the way it is in the ITSM suites (at least pre-7.0...I haven't seen
the 7.0 inner workings yet). A filter sets the Submitter to the Requester's
login name. 

Tim

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. J. Head
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Providing Read/Write Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It

Or another 'option' they might suggest is to provide an option on submit of
'who do you want this submitted as'....then create all of the records as
that user ID...remember the submitter doesn't need to be $USER$...it can be
any user you want...I think that would fit all of the requirements to make
it user maintainable and not cost any more licenses and stay within the BMC
model 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wallick
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Providing Read/Write Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It

Here's an interesting for for y'all.

We have a very good and fairly long relationship with a BMC partner that we
use for consulting/development/purchasing and, when the time comes in
November or so, we will also be using them for support instead of BMC.

First, a little background.

We use Remedy Customer Support 5.6 with a not-too-customized version of the
Customer Access Interface deployed through the mid-tier. The submitter mode
on the AR server is locked, so that customers with account using read
licenses can submit and work their own tickets through the web. However, we
have many customers that insist on using the phone for the initial
submission of an issue, and then want to work the ticket from then on
through the web. You see where I'm going with this? The customer can't
update tickets via the web if they were not the submitter, unless they have
a fixed or floating license.
Floating licenses are expensive, so we've been reluctant to go down that
road.

Our VP of support doesn't like the BMC partner that we've been using nearly
full time for the past two years (they're GREAT, BTW), so now this VP is
bringing in another consulting firm who claims that for $6400, they will
solve the customer access interface licensing "problem" without purchasing
any new licenses from BMC and also in a "BMC approved" manner.

I call B.S.

First, I find it hard to believe that BMC would allow some sort of scheme
where you can get away with not buying licenses and still give your customer
base read/write access to their tickets.

Second, how else would one run a server in locked submitter mode, while
still allowing customers to modify "their" tickets even if the ticket was
submitted on their behalf by a tech support agent? The first thing that
comes to mind would be to have a trigger or scheduled job or something at
the database level change the submitter column to the customer's login name
on insert of a new record. I seriously doubt that's a "BMC approved"
solution.

Perhaps this firm is going to suggest something like having the customer's
"log in" but all the actual interaction with ARS will be proxied through a
single user with a fixed license and all the necessary permissions. But even
that seems like something that BMC might balk at.

Thanks.

Mike

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