John,
I believe you are talking about records on
"NTE:CFG-NotificationEvents" form (alias Notification
Preferences), which has records of type "User"
added/modified by support staff through their
profile->Notifications tab->Update Notification
Preferences button->Create or Modify button.

I thought I understood this part ok and it worked
correctly. System default records for a given event
apply only if that user hasn't defined a "User" type
preference for that event.

My main issue is with (2) in my original post. If a
group is flagged as "on call", looks like they get
paged if assignment occurs within the time they wanted
to be paged (say after 5 PM). That's good. 

But before 5 PM, this group doen't get any
notification at all. Why shoulnd't they get regular
notifications...such as emails? It's crazy. Why is it
either or. Why can't a group get regualr emails when
appropriate and still get paged when they want...after
hours, weekends??? How am I going to explain this to
this customer?

Somebody tell me I am talking non-sense here and that
it does email. My tests and analysis of workflow show
it doesn't.

--- john rosquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, your observation that the system in incoherant
> is correct.  Though the problem goes deeper than you
> indicate.  At the person (people form) you cannot
> modify "your" global notification preferences. You
> can only add to notification records to your
> person/notification record (and then change and
> delete it).  The System administrator can only
> modify the "global" records. To force the system to
> use the regular user/people record defaults, set the
> global notification method to "none". (cross fingers
> here) So you ask, why have global notification
> records, if to get them to work you turn them "off".
> Go figure. It turns out that the system then looks
> up the users actual notification preference and uses
> it. (Again, cross fingers, because I have not
> figured out how it does this)
> 
> The group shift functionality seems to be
> underdeveloped or a partial thaught.  It does not
> seem to work even though you can actually configure
> it. 
> 
> I really hope the BMC will modernize this bit a
> antiquated code.
> 
> I am not sure that Cereal is strong enough.  I have
> taken up playing unreal as "dropdeadfred."
> 
> Good luck!
> John Rosquist
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rabi Tripathi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:55:13 AM
> Subject: ITSM 7: "On-Call" and "Shift" Functionality
> question
> 
> 
> Somebody please explain to me the "On-Call Group"
> flag
> on  CTM:SupportGroup form.
> 
> This is what I understand:
> 1)If the flag is set, there is always corresponding
> record(s) in "CTM:Support Group OnCall" form of type
> individual or group.
> 
> 2)If a group is flagged as on call, only pager
> notification as per OnCall settings are sent on
> assignment, not regular email, alert notifications.
> I
> find this VERY FUNNY and hope not true, but that's
> what I see in the workflow.
> 
> 3)When doing on-call paging, the "Paging Times"
> specified through "On Call" tab of CTM:SupportGroup
> form is all that's taken into account;the info in
> "Business Hours/Workdays" tab of the
> "CTM:SupportGroup" is completely ignored.
> 
> Can anybody confirm/correct my understanding?
> 
> About "Support Group Shift" functionality, the
> "configure" book has this in its index, but the
> corresponding page has no info. I don't know from
> where you set this and what good does it do to
> anybody. I'm hoping it's not tied to OnCall feature.
> Anybody knows the secret to this feature?
> 
> Thanks guys. 
> 
> PS: I'm going to try to bury myself in my breakfast
> cereal for a while and let those parts of my brain
> swollen red trying to decipher ITSM 7 recover for a
> while.
> 
> 
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