Isn't the perl script just a 6.3 substitute for the 7.1 prefetch.xml (or
whatever it's name is)?  Lets see if I can get this straight...in 7.1..if I
want to dump and re-cache I need to press the flush button in mid-tier
config, and then restart the tomcat/servletexec to have it prefetch? 

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Subject: Re: 353 Error

Joe,

Or it might be an internal Mid-tier problem that goes something like...
" Oh.. I need to go fetch/cache that form... so I have nothing to show you
right now.. So.. User you go away and when you come back then I will be
ready for you." (thus give an error once and start the cache process for
that form)

A strange thing about the "dump" cache tool is that it does not trigger a
recache (prefetch, or otherwise) operation. I would actually expect that the
function should mark all of the cache as "old" and then force a recache of
all items already in the cache. However it appears to only "dump and stop".
Then the Mid-Tier waits for the next user to "pay the price" for the lack of
a cache.


LJ,

( Just a thought. )

There was also a perl script that was used with the v6.3 Mid-Tier to "login
and force the server to cache objects". (Basically just simulating a user
activity of opening the form.) Maybe if your development process
incorporated such a step you could stop "dumping"
the cache all together?

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Carey Matthew Black
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On 10/16/07, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> In addition of checking out the bug that Michael pointed out, take a 
> SQL log at the time the error occurs to verify what the system API's 
> are trying to access at the time of the error. It might reveal something
about your error.
>
>
> Joe D'Souza

<snip>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LJ LongWing (Head)
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: 353 Error
>
>
> ARS 7.1
> Mid-Tier 7.1
> New Atlanta ServletExec 5.0.0.13
> Java 1.5.0_11
> Windows 2003
>
> We are working in a Test environment and every time we drop code from 
> Dev to Test we flush the web cache to ensure that the latest code is 
> available to the testers.  We use the Application list on the left of 
> the home page with entry points heavily on a home grown app.  
> Sometimes, some of the users will click on an entry point and get a 
> 353 error.  Excerpt from Error Message Guide
>
> 353 Error
> You have no access to form.
> You are not allowed to access the specified form. Form permissions do 
> not allow you to get the definition of the form or of its fields or to 
> access the data it contains.
> Contact your AR System administrator if you need access to the form.
>
> The funny thing is if they didn't have access to the form...they 
> wouldn't see the entry point.  Even stranger, if they try again 
> immediately after it works, and continues to work until we flush the 
> cache again.  I'm thinking it's a bug in Mid-Tier 7.1...but can't be 
> sure.  Anyone else seen this problem?  Oh...and it only manifests 
> itself in Mid-Tier of course...so no client interaction with this app.
>
> LJ LongWing
> RAC 7.x Certified

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