It was just whispered to me that:
--quote --
The inherent group option is there but hidden due to
its complexity.

It can be activated if you need it.  Go to SYS:Menu
Items form and search
for Menu Type="Approver For".  On the entry where
Menu/Label 1="Inherent Group/Role", set
Status="Enabled".  The steps to enable is supposed to
be documented somewhere on the config document.
--end quote-

Thanks AB.

I tried and it works, giving one more option besides
"Individual" and "Group" on Approval For menu on
approval mappings form.

What it does is you can select "inherent groups" such
as "Incident Assigned Group", "Incident Owner Group"
or 
you can select roles such as "Incident Manager" to be
the approving group.

So the config guide is right. But it still doesn't
give you what you are looking for.

Another option is to start all your approval group
names with, say, "zz", or "AG-" and train people not
to use those for assignment, or change the menu in the
main places, such as Incident's Assigned Group and
Owner Group fields to not list them.

Still not an elegant solution, but what you get is
proportional to the time you are willing to spend.

======
Jiri,
Config guide, pg 273 talks about Inherent Group/Role,
but it seems they are talking about a pie in the sky,
because the approval mapping form has no such options.

The menu on Assigned Group field on Incident form
lists all groups for that company and organization
with enabled status without regard to any other
criteria, so there is no way to have any defined group
not show up in that menu and still be available in
approval mapping form.

It does look like a step backward from old "approval
role" feature.

Quick dirty fix with the least amount of work/impact
on the app...for groups intended only for approval,
set the stauts to something that you would otherwise
not use, say "Archive". Then change menu on approval
mapping form to show only groups with that status...or
perhaps that status and enabled ones, depending on
what you wish. Will take 2 minutes.

This is a quirky solution, yes, but you said you don't
want to do much coding.

--- Jiri Pospisil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hello listers,
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> can anybody advise on a way to set up approver
> groups in ITSM 7, but making sure they are not
> displayed as potential assignee groups within the
> Incident Management and other modules?
> I cannot believe there is no way to achieve this.
> Oh, the requirement is to have approver groups that
> not necessarily match support groups. And it is
> understandable that these approver groups should not
> be displayed as potential assignee groups within
> other modules, i.e. Incident.
> We are trying to achieve this without any
> development, just using the configuration options
> ITSM 7 provides.
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> Thanks for your suggestions.
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> Jiri Pospisil
> Remedy Administrator
> IT Production
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> LCH.Clearnet


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