One other restriction not many people often hear about, however, is you
can't be married to a foreign citizen when attempting to get clearance.
Having a Green Card does not count.  They have to either be actively
pursuing US citizenship, or sign a binding document stating they will
pursue citizenship the moment you get clearance.  I found that out the hard
way a few years ago when applying for a job that required clearance, and
the employer was willing to help me get it.  This rule applies to all
foreign citizens, and not just the ones from places whom are presently or
recently hostile towards the United States, like Iran, North Korea, and the
former USSR states.

I have heard numbers as high as $80k in terms of how much it costs in
personnel, time, travel, and equipment to perform Secret or Top Secret
clearance research.  If you lived or travelled extensively out of the
country, then the clearing agency also has to travel there too.  This is to
make sure that you did actually live or travel there, did not socialize or
participate in anti-American organizations, or so forth.  Even if you
travelled a lot across the US, the time and costs can end up being pretty
high as government officers/agents speak to your old neighbors and
coworkers.  So you can see why employers will go to great lengths to find
an already cleared applicant, or make sure someone is a viable candidate
before starting the process.

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James Van Sickle
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Another item for folks not familiar with the situation,
including non-security-cleared Remedy folks considering
such engagements--The entire situation is chicken-and-egg
(or, perhaps, Catch-22!!!).

It is(or was, last I knew) generally very difficult for an
INDIVIDUAL to initiate request for a US Gov't security clearance
(Defense, Energy, Transportation, others).The prospective EMPLOYER
must initiate request, certifying nature of duties to be performed
by that person once cleared. Of course, we all know the employer
wants to make certain the person is eligible before expending
any money on salary or expenses of the clearance itself.....

Too many years in defense & transportation work......and hearing too
often that an existing employee would not be cleared, even when eligible,
because relationship of duties-to-safeguarded-information was not
evident to clearing agency!  And that was when a standard Secret
clearance took approx ten weeks.....

Don W. McClure, P.E.
Data Administrator & System Engineer
Computing & IT Center, Call Tracking Administration
University of North Texas, Denton
dwmac_at_unt.edu

"That which counts cannot necessarily be counted: that which can be counted
will not always count."  -- Albert Einstein

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Opela (Corporate)
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Job: Two Openings - (1) Remedy Developer - Dayton, OH / (1)
Remedy Administrator - Raleigh, NC

My clearance took 1 yr 4 months to process. The preliminary one takes a
few weeks. You can work once you begin the preliminary one.

I'm guessing the contract has 4 months left on it, and is likely up for
extensions. I cannot speak for that contract though, because it is not
mine.

Thanks,



Gary Opela, Jr., RSP

Remedy Engineer

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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:54 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Job: Two Openings - (1) Remedy Developer - Dayton, OH / (1)
Remedy Administrator - Raleigh, NC

James,

I am also not looking to leave my present position or move to Dayton,
OH right now.


I was actually thinking more along these lines... Is this a Friday humor
post?

"4 Month Contract" ...
"Will be processed for Secret Clearance" ....


I think it takes like a year (if and only if the process is really
rushed), or maybe longer to get Secret Clearance.

So you get to work about -8 months on the contract? ( So you pay them?)
Or
Maybe you have to wait 12 months (or however long it takes to get
Clearance these days) and then go to work during months 13,14,15, and
16 ? ( If you are granted Clearance, or zero days if you fail to get
Clearance.)

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM, James Van Sickle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  While I am not looking to leave my present position or move to
Dayton, OH
>  right now, I do want to ask for clarification for those on the list
who may
>  be looking.
>
>  Does the following statement "Will be processed for Secret Clearance"
from
>  the description indicate that this employer is willing to pay to have
a
>  non-cleared candidate obtain Secret clearance?

<snip>

>
>  James Van Sickle
>  Remedy Developer II
>  Enterprise Architecture Services

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