Hi Kevin....we are on ARS 7.1 patch 2, ITSM patch 7, Windows 2003 server and 
MSSQL 2005.  We have 310 support staff in 222 support groups; 111 groups are 
company-bounded, and the other are 'reflections' of those groups with 
visibility to all support staff.

Further:  our User table is ca 150K users, and these are updated hourly during 
business hours via backend process.  Updates of up to 300 records at a time 
takes a few seconds for the server, and a minor blip for the database 
(different hardware platform from ARServer, another Win2003 multi-core, 64-bit).

We see few issues from user updates-and fewer yet from people updates.  I have 
provoked several issues when updating foundation data (creating new support 
groups), and have moved those activities to off-hours since a re-caching 
generally ensues such changes.

May I propose three items for investigation:

-          Thread allocation.  Dr. Chris Strauss is the database admin-and he 
provisioned many more threads than default out-of-box; performance tuning info 
of this order has been covered in session during last several UserWorld events;

-          Database tuning.  the MSSQL installations here have been rock-solid, 
and maintenance free; but Oracle installations often take more 'tuning' for 
best performance.

-          Memory in your platforms themselves:  both our AR Server and SQL 
server are over 10Gig RAM each, separate physical platforms.  We knew data 
situations would be intensive....

I strongly suspect that substantial foundation data is cached into RAM for 
faster access-again, I have never seen a formal list, but I would suspect the 
following data items:

-          loginIDs---probably as primary link for all the following

-          passwords

-          group memberships

-          application permissions

-          notification data
Therefore, a change to any of these entities will probably set a 'dirty' flag, 
and force a re-caching.  The only change which has forced slowdowns for us is 
creation of a new support group; association or de-association of users vs 
groups has not been a performance block.

HTH-this is not necessarily intended as definitive or final....


Don W. McClure, P.E.
Data Administrator & System Engineer
Computing & IT Center, Call Tracking Administration
University of North Texas, Denton
dwmac_at_unt.edu

"That which counts cannot necessarily be counted: that which can be counted 
will not always count."  -- Albert Einstein
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Subject: Issue with some Users

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We are on AR Server 7.1 patch4 and ITSM 7.03 patch 6, with UNIX Server and 
Oracle DB.  We have about 100 employees who are in about 100 different support 
groups, and whenever we try to modify their record on the User form it locks up 
the user tool or takes a really long time to do what they where trying to do.  
Has anyone experienced this or does anyone have any systems that have employees 
in a lot of different support groups?

Kevin Begosh, RSP
301-791-3540 Phone
410-422-3623 Cell
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