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How far away from the event are the less expensive hotels?

Miami was going to cost a fair amount more than it did in Vancouver because I 
want the convenience of staying near the conference.

There was a day event in New York last week. Even though it was a day event it 
was held in a hotel that the cheapest room was over 400 a night.

It's not just cost. A couple of responses discussed choice between listening to 
a dry discussion on CMDB or slots. Choice between Configuration Management or 
Blackjack. It can be a perception that it's Vegas and little time will be spent 
at the event. In some cases it's not a misconception because folks do use 
events like free vacations.

Maybe it's just me. I don't go for the glitz. I attend for the technical 
content.


Dave 
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I don't understand why Las Vegas is extravagant. It has more cheap flights to 
it than about anywhere. It does have expensive hotel rooms but it also has very 
reasonable and yet safe rooms. Go to Travelocity and search for 3-5 star hotels 
for less than $100 a night. I got 85 hits including the Luxor, Circus Circus, 
etc. What am I missing?
 
Kelly Deaver
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official opinion of BMC)
 
 

        -------- Original Message --------
        Subject: Re: 2008 User World
        From: "Shellman, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Date: Wed, September 24, 2008 7:40 pm
        To: [email protected]
        
        
        Vegas could be problematic. Maybe BMC will listen to this before they 
really decide. As others have pointed out, the economy is not in great shape. I 
work for a company that manufacturers connectors for appliances, cars, 
computers, phones, power lines, etc. People are tightening their belts and not 
buying like they did.
        
        It also not just in the US. The events over the last few weeks are 
effected economies through out the world.
        
        In response, Tyco Electronics is looking at ways to tighten it's belt. 
A conference in Vegas when the economy continues to slow down is not a good 
thing. My asking to attend a conference in Vegas may be frowned upon as 
extravagant.
        
        It maybe similar to scheduling a conference in Florida during hurricane 
season and in a hotel that's going to be renovated. In this case the conference 
maybe held but the technical folks can't come because of the cost and the glitz 
in a bad economy.
        
        Then again we may get lucky and the economy pick up. For me it probably 
be an easier sell if it were in San Francisco or Houston. 
        Dave 
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        Vegas could be problematic....
         
        You know what they say, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!
         
        How the heck do we get all of our loot home!
         
        Warren
        
         
        On 9/24/08, Shellman, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

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                Kelly,
                
                Thanks for that update. 
                Dave 
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                Subject: Re: 2008 User World 
                
                 
                
                If you want to be kept informed on the saga of User World(s) 
you have to 'opt in' to get email. This is a requirement to meet the "no spam" 
type rules. You can do this by filling out this form - 
http://www.bmc.com/webforms/webforms.cfm?template=3644 
                 
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                        -------- Original Message --------
                        Subject: Re: 2008 User World
                        From: "Shellman, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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                        Date: Tue, September 23, 2008 6:23 pm
                        To: [email protected]
                        
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                        Hmmm.  It appears I just got an "official email" from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] the subject of "BMC UserWorld Miami Reimbursement Process."  
It details what forms to fill out, where to send the receipts, etc.
                         
                        I spoke with another person that had registered and she 
was given a reimbursement process 2 weeks ago.
                         
                        Just as FYI, the last paragraph of the "official email" 
is below:
                         
                        Mark Your Calendars
                        Many of you have been asking, and we are pleased to let 
you know that UserWorld will be held in October 2009. Look for more details 
including dates and locations coming soon! 
                        
                        Dave

                         
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Easter, David
                        Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:01 PM
                        To:[email protected]
                        Subject: Re: 2008 User World
                        
                         
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                        FYI - there have been no official communications sent 
out on this matter.  The information here is, at this time, speculation.  I 
have confirmed with the organizers that the information here is NOT confirmed 
at this point.  When an official communication goes out, I will certainly again 
update this community.
                         
                        Not calling anyone a liar - I'm sure some message from 
someone did go out - but anything sent/received is not conformed and not 
official..
                         
                        Thanks,
                        
                        
                         
                        -David J. Easter
                        Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
                        BMC Software, Inc.
                         
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
                        Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:22 AM
                        To:[email protected]
                        Subject: Re: 2008 User World
                        
                         
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                        No 2008 BUW.  Those that registered are to get refunds.
                         
                        The email I received noted that there will be more 
information posted on the web site by the end of the week.
                         
                        Dave

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
                        Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:19 AM
                        To:[email protected]
                        Subject: Re: 2008 User World
                        
                         
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                        So there will be NO 2008 BUW?  Or did they say?  It is 
a bit late, I guess...
                        
                        Rick
                        
                        
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                                Just received an update concerning 2008 User 
World (US version).  Look forward to 2009 User World in Vegas next October.
                                Dave 
                                Dave Shellman 
                                Phone:  (717) 810-3687 
                                Fax:    (717) 810-2124 
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                                Tyco Electronics 
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