Let's see if I can summarize what I've done to combat this.

I've created a backend form to hold the data on "Oldest Unsent Email
Message".  I have an escalation that runs every half hour to set a flag
if the email service needs to be restarted.

I have a filter that runs on modifications to that form that checks that
flag, does some set fields and then fires a RUN PROCESS to STOP the
email service.  Then ARMONITOR will restart it.  And, USUALLY, the email
will start flowing again.

Write me back if you'd like better detail.

Gp
 
George Payne
Corporate Applications Developer
Electric Reliability Council of Texas
(512) 248-3940
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Email Engine stops sending Emails

I would call it clueless as well as stateless; we have had plenty of
trouble with it (7.1.00.002 and 004 on Win2K3 Ent x64).  If the service
crashes it can be set to restart (at the service level), but more often
than not it crashes the java and the service hangs in a state where it
cannot stop, much less restart properly.  As far as connecting to the
mailbox, it will lose its connection (MAPI) to my Exchange server
whenever that service stops to run a backup, and note the error in the
AR System Email Error Logs, but since the service is still running it
just picks up the connection again on the next polling cycle.  The
service has to be running, or it will not try to reconnect; there isn't
anything like the armonitor that is trying to restart the aremaild if it
dies. The problem is always when the aremaild process hangs with a java
error, usually without crashing the Windows service so that it can
detect the stop and attempt a new start.

Support has us on a debug build of 7.1.00.004 right now that behaves
strangely, but is not crashing unless I induce that by sending it one
incoming email message that has proven deadly (why that one, we don't
know - we think it has hidden characters in it or something).

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell Reading
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> Remedy is stateless as far as client/server.  I don't know however if
> the java email process is stateless as well.  Anyone?
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bala Patel
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 09:59
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> Subject: Re: Email Engine stops sending Emails
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> Hi,
>
> Yes, I see that it lost connection to the smtp sever.  I would think
> that if the email engine would have an issue with connecting then it
> would try again per the polling setting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bala
>
>
>
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> From: "Chowdhury, Tauf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:42:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Email Engine stops sending Emails
>
> **
> Bala,
> Have you checked for any entries in the AR
> System Email Error Logs form?
> Do you have any mail filtering appliances
> that are relaying your messages?
>
> TaufChowdhury |ForestLaboratories, Inc.
> Sr. Analyst
> Office:
> 631.858.7765
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