Thanks Jason. Your'e right about the situation getting better. The only reason I am taking this trouble at this point is that the pages look fantastic on my phone...even complex forms used in regular browsers.
I can login without any issue. Many of the buttons work. So, I feel that there is not a whole lot standing between a simple working form and what I see now. That by using a simple form, a limited set of workflow and using some workarounds, I can get a small set of mobile devices to work with midtier. That's the dream anyway and I may just be overreacting to what reviewers say is the excellent ability of HTC Eris to render web pages. I am also looking at ARSPERL to send html and limited javascript back to the browser. Not the most elegant and scalable solution, but will work. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Jason Miller <jason.mil...@gmail.com> wrote: ** We have tried for years as the device get more powerful and the MT gets faster. To this day we are yet to find a device that can utilize enough functionality to be usable. The closest we have come is with the newer generation Blackberries (Storm/Tour) and the iPhone with both MT 7.1 and 7.5. We can get authenticated and load a very basic form display only form. We have see similar issues where tables to not work as designed, buttons and Active Links do not work. It doesn't take too complex of a form to make a Blackberry display an error that the page is too large to load. We are closer than we have ever been but not quite there yet. We are supposed to be getting a few demo phones <not sure if there is any kind of NDA so I will not state the device> that are claimed to have full browser functionality including flash. We'll see how these work when they materialize. Jason On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Rabi Tripathi <ars_l...@yahoo.com> wrote: I could sure use a lesson in clear communication. I am not asking this question right. I know Rick that there are many vendors that since forever have been selling wares to enable mobile devices to access Remedy applications. God bless these fine folks and their ingenuity. I also know that it's unrealistic to expect form/workflow designed for windows client or regular browser to fully work on mobile devices, as html and javascript support in mobile browsers is limited. Not to mention the difference in screen size, speed. My intention is to come up with simplified forms/workflow for mobile devices to have them work without third party products. At least for a small set of devices/browsers. Given what I have seen so far for HTC Eris Droid, it won't be possible or will be very funky (such as replace menus with buttons that open a form with a table listing menu choices), because menus don't work, can't double click on a table etc. I'm sure there are more caveats for Droid, and different caveats for other devices. So I am interested in hearing from anyone who has tried to get simplified Remedy forms/workflow to work on any Mobile device/browser using nothing but the good old midtier. What midtier and Device/browser, did you try and how well did it work (or not)? I have midtier 7.1 p7 / Tomcat on Sun. I thought a lot would have a lot to say on this topic. Or are my users and I just too _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"