William,

You should be able to use the

"Use this server"

Option.

This should be turned on for EVERY server in the server group.

Then, when you access the one and only server that the mid-tier or windows 
client has configured, that server
will tell you that "I am the server for the preference server" and you are good 
to go.

If that doesn't work, then there is a bug in my opinion and you should submit 
it as a bug.

Doug

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Subject: Re: Preference Server in a Server Group (7.5)

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Doug -

Thanks for the repsonse - and I agree with everything you said.  The question 
is how do we actually configure it that way so users don't have to choose it?

The issue here is that we do not want the users to specify the preference 
server in the WUT.  Consequently the server side configuration has to be used.  
The possible choices are:

-User Defined (not our first choice)
-Use This Server
-Use Other Server

If I understand what you're saying then the second option would be appropriate. 
 This conflicts with what support has been telling us so far - but our regular 
dedicated support person is on vacation.

William Rentfrow
Principal Consultant, StrataCom Inc.
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Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Preference Server in a Server Group (7.5)

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William,

I am confused by your description.

You have 4 AR System servers pointing to one DB in a server group.  These are 
then behind a load balancer.

Is this your entire environment?

If so, you really have ONE logical server.  The load balancer.  PERIOD.  This 
is your server.  This is your only
server.  This is the server you talk to from your client.

So, your mid-tier has one server registered.
So, your windows clients have one server registered.

All access is to that one logical server -- ignore the fact that behind the 
scenes there are 4 servers.  There is
ONE logical server.

That one server is your preference server.

There is no need to hunt across servers.  There is ONE server.  If the load 
balancer routes to any of the four,
you are accessing the same DB and get the same data.

Don't confuse the fact that you have multiple servers doing the work make it 
seem like there are 4 servers.
There is one logical server and if you put them all behind the load balancer, 
that one name of the load
balancer level is the ONE and ONLY server for the environment (OK, not really 
as you could go direct as
well, but if you go to the load balancer that is a single server instance -- 
logically -- regardless of whether it
really goes to one or multiple physical servers.

So, just configure your system to talk to the ONE server at the logical load 
balancer level and treat that as
your server -- and your preference server.

I hope this helps,

Doug Mueller

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Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:05 AM
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Subject: Preference Server in a Server Group (7.5)

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I have a server group with 4 AR Servers.

None of the servers are directly routable to directly by the end users - they 
all access the servers through a virtual name which passes them to the load 
balancer and on down to the server group.

We'd prefer users do not have to enter the preference server name.  BMC has 
advised us to add the actual AR Server names to the WUT and set this in the 
ar.conf on each server.

Preference-Server-Option: 2

In the non-secure world that would make the WUT search through the servers 
until it found the preference server that was defined.

That won't work for us due to security reasons because users can not get to the 
AR Servers directly.

Anyone know a way around this?

William Rentfrow
Principal Consultant, StrataCom Inc.
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