Is that data you are talking about?  How do you get code changes moved to
production?

Do you have app admins that have Admin rights to make the changes that
developers design?  I have seen this with other systems but not Remedy
(yet).

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:35 AM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> Our SOX implementation basically made it so that WE (the developers) could
> not have write access to production, plain and simple….we can have read
> access to the DB, and read access to the User tool….but there is no Admin
> for us in production….
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Perrault
> *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 11:23 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Capturing when an Admin Login is used
>
>
>
> **
>
> Actually, it came from Internal Audit.
>
> They’ve already taken away some of our access at the DB level to certain
> tables (approval and changes, as they are SOX related).
>
> Then they came back and wanted to take away our admin access all together
> (i.e. no Admin Tool)….
>
> So I had to argue with them for about an hour before it was finally agreed
> that we would look at logging when and admin logs in to the User tool or
> Admin tool
>
>
>
> I can capture Admins logging in to the User tool,
>
> I just need to capture it when it’s an admin logging in to the Admin Tool
> as well.
>
> Still thinking DB trigger on a table.
>
>
>
> LJ, I know you were just mentioning a new feature in 7.5, and a possible
> solution.
>
> J
>
> I was just giving BMC a little bit of grief and my .5 cent on upgrading…
>
> We spent 2 years upgrading to ITSM 7.1, and every horror story you hear, we
> experienced.
>
> So we are not going to be upgrading anytime soon.
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Reiser, John J
> *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 11:26 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Capturing when an Admin Login is used
>
>
>
> **
>
> Matthew,
>
> Sounds like you are trying to catch a rogue admin doing some midnight
> developing. “ I can make all your tickets get reassigned to Pete for $50”
>
> How about the Server Events form?
>
> I will capture the changes made though it will not let you know when the
> admin logged in. That would in the User.log or via the init-form setting.
>
> HTH,
>
> ---
> John J. Reiser
> Senior Software Development Analyst
> Remedy Administrator/Developer
> Lockheed Martin - MS2
> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
> Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
> me
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Perrault
> *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 11:38 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: Capturing when an Admin Login is used
>
>
>
> **
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> Ya I tried adding some code to the AR System:License Review form,
>
> but that’s a Vendor form, and it didn’t work L.
>
> I look into the INIT form, though, but I really needed to capture when the
> Admin tool is logged into.
>
> I’m thinking if there was a table in the DB, I could write a DB trigger on
> that to insert into a different table,
>
> Then drop a view form on that table
>
>
>
> As far as upgrade to 7.5 (it’ll solve all your problems! MMMMOOOOOOOOO—plop
> plopàBull….)
>
> That’s not going to happen any time soon.
>
> I heard the same thing on upgrading to 7.1…needless to say, I was less than
> impressed.
>
> “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing
> *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 9:58 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Capturing when an Admin Login is used
>
>
>
> **
>
> Matthew,
>
> As John mentioned, you could use the Init form, but that only works in the
> user tool…not Admin or Web…your best option in my opinion is to upgrade to
> 7.5 and turn on the user license monitoring feature…then write a filter on
> these forms to do what you need….outside of upgrading, I believe your only
> other option is the user log.
>
>
>
> **
>
> Matthew,
>
>  Look for the INIT_Form in the docs.
>
> You have to add it to the ar.cfg file. I loads in the back ground and you
> can use it to push data to your “Spy on the bad admin” form;^>
>
> Can ya tell it’s Friday?
>
>
>
> ---
> John J. Reiser
> Senior Software Development Analyst
> Remedy Administrator/Developer
> Lockheed Martin - MS2
> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
> Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
> me
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Perrault
> *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 8:11 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Capturing when an Admin Login is used
>
>
>
> **
>
> All,
>
> I’m trying to capture when a specific Administrator Login is used to login
> to the User or Admin Tool.
>
> I need to take that information, and save the ID and the Timestamp into a
> Form/Table so that it can be reported off of monthly.
>
> While I could turn on the User Logging (from the Server Information form),
> and run a Perl Script to convert it into a CSV,
>
> that means I would have to be doing the reporting (which I want to avoid).
>
> It also means that Log could get pretty big.
>
>
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions/ideas on how I can do this with Remedy
> Work Flow?
>
> I thought there was a way, but I can’t remember.
>
>
>
> ARS 7.1 Patch 8
>
> ITSM 7.1
>
> MS SQL Database 2005
>
> Windows Server 2003
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Matt P.
>
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