A mis-configured MTA will allow you to put whatever you want into the
reply-to header.

Axton Grams

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andrew C Goodall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Any decent well designed application will have layers of abstraction :)
> Who doesn't validate for '@' in an email field! Apparently BMC.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Goodall
> Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com
>
>
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> Subject: Re: WARNING OF BAD AS DESIGNED FEATURE IN ITSM - zero in internet 
> email field for person is not good.
>
> What is 'as designed' is the ability to use a group id, group name,
> login name, or email address in the email message delivery fields.
> When a number is seen, it is interpreted as a group id.
> Unfortunately, 0 is the group id for public.
>
> Not saying it's right, but that's what it is, and the application can
> (and in my opinion, should) account for this.
>
> Seems a knob could be added to the email engine that disallowed this,
> or defined a threshold for group member count could be used to address
> this.  It's not the first time this has burned someone (not
> necessarily in the ITSM world either).  The notification engine may
> add a layer of abstraction on top of the email engine that discounts
> the use of this capability at the email engine layer (I don't know
> enough about it to say for sure).
>
> Take a system that has an email auto-reply set up.  Send an email to
> that system with a reply-to address of 0 and guess what you would get.
>
> Axton
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> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Andrew C Goodall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> **
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI - for ITSM users
>>
>>
>>
>> We had an issue last week in which a service desk associate created a
>> proposed people record for a vendor and entered a zero as the persons email
>> address.
>>
>> Upon creating the incident with the new person as the customer the BMC
>> workflow treated "zero" in the email field as meaning I need to email
>> EVERYBODY that has a people record!!!! For use that is over 300,000 records!
>>
>>
>>
>> Needless to say our executives were not very happy about this, we had opened
>> a CRITCAL issue with BMC on this because it was not as simple as deleting
>> all the relevant records from "AR System Email Messages" form since the NTE
>> functionality was shipping 100 records or so every few minutes to be
>> processed by the email engine in "AR System Email Messages".
>>
>>
>>
>> We needed to STOP the messages from getting processed by NTE, but BMC
>> support did not have a remedy (HA - pardon the pun), they said we just had
>> to let them process - RIDICULUOUS! Furthermore we found out through this
>> issue that this is an "AS DESIGNED" feature - RIDICULULOUS!
>>
>>
>>
>> So be warned if you don't want your service desk to accidently email
>> everyone in the company add an active link to validate the value in the
>> email field when creating a people record.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is breath taking to me why BMC would think this is a good "AS DESIGNED"
>> feature. I can understand needing that capability for use in workflow - but
>> for goodness sake only allow it on a back end hidden field e.g. a z_ field,
>> and NOT a forward facing field editable by users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Goodall
>>
>> Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com
>>
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