JD, 

Interesting timing for this post. I have a consultant working in our
non-prod environment right now noticing a strange issue and we are on
RAC. Basically, we have 2 servers in a server group. The one server is
fine... but the primary is getting timeout errors and when we try to
open filters on it, we get messages stating that the filter is
referencing data that doesn't exist. 

I'll let you know what we find. As it's a non-prod environment, we may
have more room to troubleshoot. 

 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Service Portfolio Manager

Infrastructure - Service Management

Office: 631.858.7765

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JD Hood
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Oracle-RAC and ARS Issues?

 

** Having a really weird issue at a client where, when you restart the
AR Server service (not every time, but at random nth restarts)...

- Random forms fail to load in the server (won't list in client & won't
list in the Admin tool, but T,H,B tables are still there with data)

- Random fields vanish on forms

- All guides (filter & active link) fail to load

- could be some other probs, but we didn't look as we have our hands
full dealing with the first three

 

The first time this occurred, we found that the numfields value in
ARSCHEMA table did not agree with the rowcount in the FIELD table for
some CMDB forms (AST: forms). The problem has occurred three times over
as many weeks and restoring the DB from backup each time it happens is
not feasible as along term resolution -- we need to figure out the root
cause. The site is secure and sharing logs, screenshots or webexing is
not allowed, so troubleshooting is problematic.

 

I mentioned the symptoms to a colleague and it prompted a vague memory
of some issue between an earlier version of ARS and Oracle-RAC, even
though the versions were listed as compatible. BMC support can't find
any mention and so far (considering the site security restrictions) have
only been treating the symptoms. BMC support seems to think the problem
is running multiple class manager jobs at the same time, but we aren't
doing that. The last time it happened, the system came back up with a
*bunch* of corrupted forms (bad field counts between arschema and field
tables for a variety of forms) and a "change pending" class manager job
showed up out of nowhere -- before system restart, we weren't doing
anything in class manager / class manager was idle.

 

In trying to make sense of this, I can only imagine that ARS starts up
and connects to the Oracle-RAC cluster in such a screwed-up fashion that
it either retrieves (or causes RAC to return) pieces of the database
from different points in time -OR- skips parts of the DB -OR- the
Oracle-RAC cluster is not keeping itself in sync like we think -OR-
<heck-if-i-know-feel-free-to-guess>. All I can say is I've never
encountered the behavior before and it's beyond weird.

 

Two questions: 

1. Disregarding the issues I've mentioned, does anyone recall ANY (and I
mean *any*) issues between Oracle-RAC and any version of ARS? It's the
only clue we have at this point and I'm grasping at straws.

 

2. Has anybody experienced the described weirdness, regardless of ARS
version?

 

Thanks,

JDHood

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