Sound idea, but just not feasible. There are too many other eggs in that RAC
basket. But I think I will ask if they can stand up the AR instance on a
stand-alone, non-rac Oracle host though.

Thanks,
JDHood

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:34 PM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> JD,****
>
> While I have never seen these symptoms, I agree with you that it appears,
> somehow to be related with the communication method between your remedy
> server and your DB.  As I understand the RAC, it’s a Clustering software,
> and if not performing properly, I could totally see problems with restarting
> and the node you were on is not the one you re-connected to.  One
> troubleshooting step you could take would be to shut down all of the nodes
> of the cluster except one….work with it for awhile…then shutdown and restart
> to see if you have problems….I know it’s a bit extreme…and may not be
> feasible to your situation, but it’s something I would put on my list of ‘to
> try’ J****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *JD Hood
> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2011 1:13 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Oracle-RAC and ARS Issues?****
>
> ** **
>
> ** Having a really weird issue at a client where, when you restart the AR
> Server service (not every time, but at random nth restarts)...****
>
> - Random forms fail to load in the server (won't list in client & won't
> list in the Admin tool, but T,H,B tables are still there with data)****
>
> - Random fields vanish on forms****
>
> - All guides (filter & active link) fail to load****
>
> - could be some other probs, but we didn't look as we have our hands full
> dealing with the first three****
>
> ** **
>
> The first time this occurred, we found that the numfields value in ARSCHEMA
> table did not agree with the rowcount in the FIELD table for some CMDB forms
> (AST: forms). The problem has occurred three times over as many weeks and
> restoring the DB from backup each time it happens is not feasible as along
> term resolution -- we need to figure out the root cause. The site is secure
> and sharing logs, screenshots or webexing is not allowed, so troubleshooting
> is problematic.****
>
> ** **
>
> I mentioned the symptoms to a colleague and it prompted a vague memory of
> some issue between an earlier version of ARS and Oracle-RAC, even though the
> versions were listed as compatible. BMC support can't find any mention and
> so far (considering the site security restrictions) have only been treating
> the symptoms. BMC support seems to think the problem is running multiple
> class manager jobs at the same time, but we aren't doing that. The last time
> it happened, the system came back up with a *bunch* of corrupted forms (bad
> field counts between arschema and field tables for a variety of forms) and a
> "change pending" class manager job showed up out of nowhere -- before system
> restart, we weren't doing anything in class manager / class manager was
> idle.****
>
> ** **
>
> In trying to make sense of this, I can only imagine that ARS starts up and
> connects to the Oracle-RAC cluster in such a screwed-up fashion that it
> either retrieves (or causes RAC to return) pieces of the database from
> different points in time -OR- skips parts of the DB -OR- the Oracle-RAC
> cluster is not keeping itself in sync like we think -OR-
> <heck-if-i-know-feel-free-to-guess>. All I can say is I've never encountered
> the behavior before and it's beyond weird.****
>
> ** **
>
> Two questions: ****
>
> 1. Disregarding the issues I've mentioned, does anyone recall ANY (and I
> mean *any*) issues between Oracle-RAC and any version of ARS? It's the only
> clue we have at this point and I'm grasping at straws.****
>
> ** **
>
> 2. Has anybody experienced the described weirdness, regardless of ARS
> version?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> JDHood****
>
> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ****
>  _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
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