JD,

While I have never seen these symptoms, I agree with you that it appears,
somehow to be related with the communication method between your remedy
server and your DB.  As I understand the RAC, it's a Clustering software,
and if not performing properly, I could totally see problems with restarting
and the node you were on is not the one you re-connected to.  One
troubleshooting step you could take would be to shut down all of the nodes
of the cluster except one..work with it for awhile.then shutdown and restart
to see if you have problems..I know it's a bit extreme.and may not be
feasible to your situation, but it's something I would put on my list of 'to
try' J

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JD Hood
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Oracle-RAC and ARS Issues?

 

** Having a really weird issue at a client where, when you restart the AR
Server service (not every time, but at random nth restarts)...

- Random forms fail to load in the server (won't list in client & won't list
in the Admin tool, but T,H,B tables are still there with data)

- Random fields vanish on forms

- All guides (filter & active link) fail to load

- could be some other probs, but we didn't look as we have our hands full
dealing with the first three

 

The first time this occurred, we found that the numfields value in ARSCHEMA
table did not agree with the rowcount in the FIELD table for some CMDB forms
(AST: forms). The problem has occurred three times over as many weeks and
restoring the DB from backup each time it happens is not feasible as along
term resolution -- we need to figure out the root cause. The site is secure
and sharing logs, screenshots or webexing is not allowed, so troubleshooting
is problematic.

 

I mentioned the symptoms to a colleague and it prompted a vague memory of
some issue between an earlier version of ARS and Oracle-RAC, even though the
versions were listed as compatible. BMC support can't find any mention and
so far (considering the site security restrictions) have only been treating
the symptoms. BMC support seems to think the problem is running multiple
class manager jobs at the same time, but we aren't doing that. The last time
it happened, the system came back up with a *bunch* of corrupted forms (bad
field counts between arschema and field tables for a variety of forms) and a
"change pending" class manager job showed up out of nowhere -- before system
restart, we weren't doing anything in class manager / class manager was
idle.

 

In trying to make sense of this, I can only imagine that ARS starts up and
connects to the Oracle-RAC cluster in such a screwed-up fashion that it
either retrieves (or causes RAC to return) pieces of the database from
different points in time -OR- skips parts of the DB -OR- the Oracle-RAC
cluster is not keeping itself in sync like we think -OR-
<heck-if-i-know-feel-free-to-guess>. All I can say is I've never encountered
the behavior before and it's beyond weird.

 

Two questions: 

1. Disregarding the issues I've mentioned, does anyone recall ANY (and I
mean *any*) issues between Oracle-RAC and any version of ARS? It's the only
clue we have at this point and I'm grasping at straws.

 

2. Has anybody experienced the described weirdness, regardless of ARS
version?

 

Thanks,

JDHood

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